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Will s5 turbo fix boost creep?

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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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Will s5 turbo fix boost creep?

Have a 88 T2 with a full RB exhaust setup, and I am curious to know if a s5 turbo swap will fix the boost creep problem instead of having to port the wastegate on the s4 turbo?
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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you'd have to take off the turbo either way...might as well port it and save yourself the money.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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but isn't the s5 turbos a better turbo over all?
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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Its the same turbo.
The difference is that S5's don't have the twin-scroll actuator and have a double flap wastegate...
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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so if i get a s5 turbo, will it have to be ported?
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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Not necessarily, the dual flapper wastegate is a lot better...it'll help reduce creep for sure.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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ok well somebody told me with the exhaust setup im running, a s5 turbo is the better way to go.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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I don't know what you are hitting now but with the S5 turbo and RB exhuast and stock intake I was hitting 9psi. and with a K&N cone around 11.

I would think you are hitting 12-15 with the S4??

it's better but it's still not perfect.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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well, your stock S4 wastegate is 12 mm.

The stock wastegate on an S5 is 19mm and 24.5 mm, which can easily be ported (and backcut) to 25 mm and 30mm respectively.

You will not creep with this set-up (ported S5 wastegate).
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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port out your S4 wastegate and weld a new flapper on from an exhaust valve.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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port out your S4 wastegate and weld a new flapper on from an exhaust valve.
Still won't flow as much as a ported S5 wastegate.
Work it out:
32mm, or 25mm+30mm.
The two smaller holes have a larger volume.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by scathcart
well, your stock S4 wastegate is 12 mm.

The stock wastegate on an S5 is 19mm and 24.5 mm, which can easily be ported (and backcut) to 25 mm and 30mm respectively.

You will not creep with this set-up (ported S5 wastegate).
I'll second that. The only thing I have to add is that since you've got the turbo off either way, down the road you'll be greatful for the S5 porting.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by HeffBoost
I'll second that. The only thing I have to add is that since you've got the turbo off either way, down the road you'll be greatful for the S5 porting.
ALso, backcut the ports, and do a slight flycut into the backing plate so the flapper door can open a little wider.
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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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I am getting the s5 turbo for my car. I don't plan on running a lot more boost then what the car runs now. I just noticed once that my boost spiked to 14lbs. of course that's with a autometer boost gauge, but I'd rather be safe then sorry. That's why I'm installing the s5 turbo.
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