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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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wideband preference

ok, so, really didnt know where to post this, so ill put it here.
i searched a little, but of course, didnt find anything pertaining to my specific question. both gauges are supposedly "great" as to what i found in my search. but my question is:
wich WB do you prefer?
AEM uego
PLX DM5+SM-afr
so, post what you own, how much you like it, and especially if youve owned both!
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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I like my zeitronix. It logs afr, rpm, boost, and egt's. You do have to buy the sensors for the egt and boost but it's well worth it.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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innovate lc-1 ftw
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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I recently installed the AEM UEGO. c. $260 shipped off eBay.

Very easy to install, works like a charm, looks good. I have no experience with other units.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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The AEM Uego that I have is okay... except that it doesn't measure lower than 10 AFR
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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cool.
thank you for the replys so far.
i did check the other ones you guys mentioned, but i would like a WB in gauge form.
the PLX and AEM are both gauges, cost effective, and seemed to be easy to install.
the only concerns i have is that the AEM reads backwards to what im used to seeing, and the PLX is supposedly hard to see in the daytime.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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I'm a big fan of PLX widebands. I'm running the M-300 and I've never had a problem with it. My buddy with the R300 on his Chevy Vega drag car has become very consistent because of the logs he gets from it. Logging with the M-300's output is flawless and I never get any hiccups with it.


I like the PLX SM-AFR with the gauge and I plan on running it in my DSM when I get it back on the road. For $269 its a good deal. The NGK wideband looks interesting also.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blmcquig
cool.
the AEM reads backwards to what im used to seeing
The AEM will also display Lambda, if that helps.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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LM-1 + LMA-3 + There datalogging and playback software FTW! I have 2.5 years of driving on my original sensor, still reacts wicked fast
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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i had the uego.. wouldn't buy another one.. too finicky and i wish it had datalogging so i could actually tune with it by myself
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Red'vert
Very easy to install, works like a charm, looks good. I have no experience with other units.
I have to agree, I love it .
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trybal
i wish it had datalogging so i could actually tune with it by myself
The AEM outputs a loggable signal, RTEKs Pocketlogger etc. will log it.

From the product manual:

A user-selectable 0-5V analog output is included and can be used with data loggers as well as most Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI) systems including the AEM Engine Management System (EMS). A serial data stream is also integrated for air fuel (or lambda) ratio output to a RS-232 com port.

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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^^^ ive been owned haha :-D Its a bitch watching the rpms, and afr..
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
I like my zeitronix. It logs afr, rpm, boost, and egt's. You do have to buy the sensors for the egt and boost but it's well worth it.

Zeitronix for the reasons above plus using the RTEKZT with the Zeitronix. The RTEKZT utilizes a Palm for the display of the afr/egt/rpm/blah,blah, blah etc.

http://www.digitaltuning.com/index.php?pid=plzt

In other words the Zeitronix without their display but using the RTEKZT and the Palm as the display. Your also able to download the log to a laptop, tabletop etc using the RTEKZT if you want to look at a graph view of a log.

I use the probe and wires off a old analog EFT gauge and have them going to the Zeitronix. Works swell and a damned site (sp) faster reading than the analog gauge.

I've a couple of the early 1.0 and 1.1 TechEdge from OZ and they're still humping along. No data log on those eary first gen TechEdge. Later versions of it kick *** with data logging etc.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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I have used the AEM and like it as well as I like the looks to..

I have read into the PLX and that also seems to be a nice one however I keep going back to the aem

Dave
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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It doesn't matter what wideband you go with really. They all work and all work fairly well. The problem is trying to watch your wideband and Tach at the same time while your driving. Even with a friend watching it is very hard to watch the wideband because numbers are going by so fast.

Logging is your friend. It so so easy to be able to do a pull go to the side of the road, look at the log. Do some changes and then go do some more pulls. You can go home and compare all of the logs and maybe be able to fine tune your system.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SpooledupRacing
I have used the AEM and like it as well as I like the looks to..

I have read into the PLX and that also seems to be a nice one however I keep going back to the aem

Dave
maybe because you sell them? you probably dont even need a wideband
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
maybe because you sell them? you probably dont even need a wideband

that has nothing to do with it..

I like the look the aem offers over the plx. gauge style widebands I think just make it easier to put in place and with the lights on the aem one it is easier to look at those while looking at the tach then looking at the numbers and calculating

Dave
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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A wideband is a good tool for troubleshooting an engine. Same with having a RTEK2.0

Turning screw, removing part, adding parts and using you butt as the tuning tool ............no kind comment about doing things that way. Same with swapping parts out to correct a problem i.e. alternators, batterys, ECU. Mindless and costly.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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I'm using an AEM UEGO.

No problems with the unit.......I bought it without worrying about having a datalogable independant system because I knew I'd be wiring the analog 0v-5v ouput to the spare A/D on the Haltech (E6X). With the input set to UEGO you can log the AFR's right onto the laptop.

Works just like the Haltech UEGO minus cost and weird looking gauge
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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I have the AEM UEGO as well, not install yet though so I can't really comment. Looks like quality.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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I use the AEM eugo wideband as well.. I like it. Its easy to read.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by riverzendz
not install yet though
Get that sucker in there! They're very entertaining.

A muffler shop can drill and weld the bung in for you in 5 minutes.

I just screwed an Autometer gauge bracket under the dash, I can see it well enough, it's not in the way and it's pretty stealth down there...

(Note the G-Force readout on the Kenwood, VERY entertaining as well...)

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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I have the Innovate LC-1 (wideband controller) paired with their XD-1 (gauge) and it works and looks awesome. The XD-1 comes in different color and trim options.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
Zeitronix for the reasons above plus using the RTEKZT with the Zeitronix. The RTEKZT utilizes a Palm for the display of the afr/egt/rpm/blah,blah, blah etc.

http://www.digitaltuning.com/index.php?pid=plzt

In other words the Zeitronix without their display but using the RTEKZT and the Palm as the display. Your also able to download the log to a laptop, tabletop etc using the RTEKZT if you want to look at a graph view of a log.

I use the probe and wires off a old analog EFT gauge and have them going to the Zeitronix. Works swell and a damned site (sp) faster reading than the analog gauge.

I've a couple of the early 1.0 and 1.1 TechEdge from OZ and they're still humping along. No data log on those eary first gen TechEdge. Later versions of it kick *** with data logging etc.
nice hearing from you again. How have you been? So how is that rtek 2.0 treating you? Are you getting pretty good at tunning that thing?
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