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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:51 AM
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Wide Band Logging today :)

Hey all, I managed to pull a third gear run tonight and happened to log it.


I'm attatching the xls file for you guys to check out.


It looks like i'm running hardcore rich in a lot of areas.


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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:26 AM
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Yeah thats pretty rich. So fun tuning when you can just take a whole mil sec off and the car still is rich
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Yeah, interstingly enough I was feeling a big pull where the log shows the AFRs going below 10
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Yeah, interstingly enough I was feeling a big pull where the log shows the AFRs going below 10
I saw that, take some of that fuel off the bottom and put it at the top
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Oh yeah I forgot to post that this is with the blower OFF. Obviously when I have the blower back ON i'll have the 2/3BAR map sensor logging on the third User input for the TE.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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what are you using as wideband? how much did it run you???

correct me if I am wrong but isn't stoichiometric balance 14:1

and you ran a 15.48 @2711 RPMS? isn't that supposed to mean super lean?

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Tech Edge's 2B0 unit. I don't like to think about how much it cost me
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but isn't stoichiometric balance 14:1

and you ran a 15.48 @2711 RPMS? isn't that supposed to mean super lean?


Stoich IIRC is 14.7:1 Take a look at the TPS% at 2711rpms its something like 13%
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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recommend any widebands with logging that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or a ********?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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damn................fine........what is the cheapest one you all know of right now?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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the innovate LM1 aint *that* bad as far as price.

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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The Basic Kit ($349) includes a the Meter, a Bosch wide-band oxygen sensor and cable, cigarette-lighter power adapter, serial cable for PC connection, 9V battery, exhaust bung and plug, CD and manual.
so this is all I would need to be able to tune my car and avoid having to dynotune for 800+ bux?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
recommend any widebands with logging that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or a ********?


Wankel7 bought a 2A0 that is a DIY kit, which you "build" you save around 100 USD by ordering that.

The 2B0 is not available in a DIY kit so I picked it up for around 375AUD which is something like 290 USD

Tech Edge units are really the best value I could find for what I wanted.

I built my own display(which I think I messed up, yey)
I built the sensor cable(flawless)
I picked up the sensor from the state of Washington! for about half the price of buying it from Tech Edge(48USD shipped)


So the run-down is:

283 -Main unit
60 -Display DIY kit
19 -2.6M Cable Kit
7 -Sensor Plug

369 USD before shipping & lacking the sensor.

417 USD with the sensor(shipped) Plus 26 USD for s/h from austrailia

443 Shipped total

But I am having trouble with the DIY display which I may have burnt the voltage regulator on. But its not needed for anything other than being a physical display in your car....










I'd say check out the TE stuff, its really nice stuff. If you're good with electronics/soldering you can save a lot of money by building your unit/display/sensor cable.



http://wbo2.com/orderpage.htm#2B0

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1987RX7guy
Wankel7 bought a 2A0 that is a DIY kit, which you "build" you save around 100 USD by ordering that.

The 2B0 is not available in a DIY kit so I picked it up for around 375AUD which is something like 290 USD

Tech Edge units are really the best value I could find for what I wanted.

I built my own display(which I think I messed up, yey)
I built the sensor cable(flawless)
I picked up the sensor from the state of Washington! for about half the price of buying it from Tech Edge(48USD shipped)


So the run-down is:

283 -Main unit
60 -Display DIY kit
19 -2.6M Cable Kit
7 -Sensor Plug

369 USD before shipping & lacking the sensor.

417 USD with the sensor(shipped) Plus 26 USD for s/h from austrailia

443 Shipped total

But I am having trouble with the DIY display which I may have burnt the voltage regulator on. But its not needed for anything other than being a physical display in your car....
damn........that's a wad of cash!
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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lm1 is nice but sucks because everything is an add on with that bastard. Like the you can't log rpm until you get the auxilery port blah blah blah but some good ones to get are the tech edge and I've got the zeitronix witch really wasn't that bad. you can get everything but the readout for like 279 and just log with your laptop. I don't even use the readout anyways.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
damn........that's a wad of cash!

Considering what the Innovative stuff looks like, I dont mind that I payed 100 dollars more.

Did I mention I can log 3 two wire EGT units, 2 normal inputs and 1 Differential Input. I've got the nicest wb in town, not even the dyno's have that
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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looks like the zeitronix is gonna work........
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1987RX7guy
Considering what the Innovative stuff looks like, I dont mind that I payed 100 dollars more.

Did I mention I can log 3 two wire EGT units, 2 normal inputs and 1 Differential Input. I've got the nicest wb in town, not even the dyno's have that
It still sucks compared to my FJO.
I can log each separate rotor's AFR separately, with two separate oxygen sensors. :P

Plus, you're fat.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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It still sucks compared to my FJO.
I can log each separate rotor's AFR separately, with two separate oxygen sensors. :P

Plus, you're fat.

LOL nice, but at 118lbs i'm a featherlight
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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i think he meant PHAT....Pretty, Hot, And Tempting.......
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
i think he meant PHAT....Pretty, Hot, And Tempting.......
Oh no!

Teh canadian lub
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Well i've got a scholarship check to go pick up, time for teh tunning
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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I've added the setting on the AFC at the time of the log.

Its the Hi Throttle map.


The fuel setup is:

550 primaries
720 secondaries
TII pump
N/a rails & FPR
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scathcart
It still sucks compared to my FJO.
I can log each separate rotor's AFR separately, with two separate oxygen sensors. :P

Plus, you're fat.
Can you use that practically on a rotary? Maybe with long header tubes on a N/A. With a turbo application the sensors would get to hot to use.
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