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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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why are my gears so long?

has anyone else on here with a S5 NA noticed how horribly long the gears are? i've done a couple little stoplight races with my friends (against a turbo miata that runs mid 13's and an integra typeR runs low 14's, and a couple other relatively quick cars) and noticed that i can launch harder than both of them, and i am always ahead til about 40mph or so. then the story changes,
i shift to second real hard and fast and usually tach it out. I AM NOW AT 70MPH by the time i am at 8000rpms in second, switch to third and i make it up to about 110-115 before taching out.

why is my second gear so horribly long? who could possibly need to go 70mph in second when the next gear is just one shift away...? i get burned every race because i dont have enough power to push all the way through that horribly long second gear.

has anyone else noticed this? maybe its just a S5 NA thing...
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Maybe you just need more power. JK. I have the exact oposite problem. Before I know its my cars a 8500rpms bouncing off the rev limiter.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Yea, our cars are like that. IMO 2nd gear is the best, my car is pulling hard up to 7000 (stock port S4), and pulls like that all through 3rd. You shouldnt be losing because of this, I wouldnt think. Are you sure the Aux ports and VDI are working correctly?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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yeah I don't know whats up with your cars but those two gears(2nd and 3rd) are the best.


S4!!!!
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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*cough* 4.30 gears *cough*

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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i dont know what's wrong with your car but i love that long second gear. i get into it and just keep pulling and pulling. nobody stands a chance
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
Yea, our cars are like that. IMO 2nd gear is the best, my car is pulling hard up to 7000 (stock port S4), and pulls like that all through 3rd. You shouldnt be losing because of this, I wouldnt think. Are you sure the Aux ports and VDI are working correctly?
i feel a pickup at 5500rpms. nothing before that and nothing after. i am sick of this 6port ****. i wish i could get it all to work right so i could actually appreciate the concept.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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have you cleaned them? made sure they work?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Yea, the pickup at 5500 should be the VDI, Im not all that certain on how stuff works on S5 N/As, could the aux ports be stuck and the VDI still work?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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yep, there are 2 different solenoids to control them. I would take you're manifold off and clean the axu ports and port the intake manifold. it will cost you $12 and 2 advil
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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i never cleaned mine on my n/a maybe that's why i lost so much.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
could the aux ports be stuck and the VDI still work?
It's possible. They work off different actuators.

On my stock N/A dyno sheet, power drops off right at 7000 RPM, so I wouldn't go too much past that, shifting there should drop it back to above 4500 RPM, which is getting right back into the engine's sweet spot.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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I noticed the same thing, although my 2nd gear does not quite go to 70mph, my 2nd gear goes to about 100km/h (about 60mph). I got S5 NA, but then again that was running on low compression on rear rotor so when rebuilt it may go to 70mph....who knows....
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Boy am I glad that I was too broke to get an S5 or GXL . . . too wary to get a TII . . .

-S4 base- *amen, base brothers!*
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
Yea, the pickup at 5500 should be the VDI, Im not all that certain on how stuff works on S5 N/As, could the aux ports be stuck and the VDI still work?
yeah i cleaned the sleeves and the actuators for the 5th and 6th ports. i havent checked the solenoid for the 6pi yet, maybe thats the problem.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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Boy am I glad that I was too broke to get an S5 or GXL . . . too wary to get a TII . . .

-S4 base- *amen, base brothers!*
Aww....is someone upset they dont have a LSD, 5-lug wheels or 4-piston calipers.. Yes I may be slightly heavier, but it is because I have some goodies Weight will be made up be remving a/c and PS and alot of other stuff though....
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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SPORT baby the light weight of the bah with the big brakes and good suspension.



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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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does anyone have a dyno graph for a stock S5 NA? i want to see where the 6pi comes on.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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If you hold 1/3 throttle (to keep the power down around 60HP) as the tach passes 5400 you should feel the 20HP boost from the VDI.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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Lighten your car bro!! Don't get beat by a F-ing Miata!!! I love that long second and third gear, Exveryone else has to shift, I don't. 75 in second, 108 in third (GPS verified). I would like to eventually get the lower gear set though because 5th gear on my car is useless right now. It will go faster in 4th!
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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You're just not revving the shizit out of fourth, then. Heh.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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I hate to tell you man a s5 gxl is a terd. unless u got some serious mods. its not your gearing
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by SureShot
If you hold 1/3 throttle (to keep the power down around 60HP) as the tach passes 5400 you should feel the 20HP boost from the VDI.
yes i have done that and have felt it plenty of times so i guess the VDI works. when are my 5th and 6th ports supposed to come on?
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