TwEaK

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as the title states. Looking at buying a Apexi powerFC and its for an S5, now i have a 1987 GTU that i have converted everything to turbo just some basic explanation would help.
Thanks
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farberio

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If the Apexi PowerFC is a plug and play option, then no you cannot. The wiring harness is very different between S4 and S5.

87 t-66

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all of the wiring between series is completely different if you haven't noticed. the PFC uses the stock wiring harness.

HAILERS

Ask BANZAI-RACING if he carries an adapter to mate the two.

flaco

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or ........get a microtech

ifryrice

Stay far away from microtech.

TwEaK

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not a fan of microtech at all... puerto ricans love it for some odd reason.. but its either Haltech or Rtek 2.1
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arghx

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The Power FC itself will work fine (AP Engineering) but you will need a different adapter harness, Banzai Racing supplies it. You can run the AP Engineering PFC without rewiring the trailing coil, and the default basemap is different on it than the FD PFC.

I wouldn't buy this AP Engineering unit unless you get a really good deal. You're better off getting a used FD PFC off the 3rd gen forums and then buying the harness.

TwEaK

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actually the one im looking at is from AP Engineering got anymore info on it?

Banzai-Racing

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The AP is a modified FD PFC with a patch harness to install in an S5. To install it in an S4 you will still need our S4 PFC kit. Typically it is far more expensive to buy the AP PFC, it will not come with the sensors required, and ususally does not have a Commander.

Our S4 PFC adapter kit will allow installation of the less expensive FD PFC or the S5 AP unit.

http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...ss_adapter.htm

TwEaK

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he wanted about $1300 for everything including sensors.gm 3bar map sensor, air temp sensor and its already has a map for what im going to be running...
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flaco

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or the new ems r tech wich is pretty bad *** and is not expensive wwr has them in stock

Banzai-Racing

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Only one major problem, it will not plug into your car without spending another $200, which equals $1500. The map on it may be for similiar mods, but it will still only be a base map for your car. Every car/engine is different and needs to be tuned for it's own specific characteristics.

Fd PFC is available new for as little as $800 (if you shop) + our S4 kit with sensors ($315) = $1115

Or you can pick up a used FD PFC (which is what the AP is anyway) for as little as $300-$500

TwEaK

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ahhhh so many dam options.... any recommendations? Banzai ive been thinking about making the trip up there to take you my car but time and money lol

arghx

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I would post a WTB ad in the 3rd gen forum for a used FD PFC. The PFC's don't fail unless somebody makes a wiring mistake and fries the box. then get the Banzai kit. you should be able to get the whole thing set up for about $1000 then if you get a used PFC in the $700 range. Then you can buy a Datalogit laptop interface if you choose to. that will allow you to more easily swap maps out or do self tuning if you choose to do so.

87 t-66

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might as well get a haltech if you are spending that much. you can get one for ~$700.

ifryrice

It's all in the people around you (unless you're tuning it yourself)

arghx

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yes go with what your tuner prefers, but if you are self tuning the Power FC will be easier due to the easy installation and large amount of information available for it