Ex-Eg-Driver

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My Benchmarks

Handling - 350Z

Power - NC Miata

KhanArtisT

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An S2000 with the same modifications as an FC will always be faster due to having a more modern suspension design. As for out performing just a stock one, DIYMAN25 here built an FB that had basic suspension modifications, was N/A and ran faster than a stock S2000 driven by some pro Japanese driver on his local track (buttonwillow I think).

My goal is also to outperform a stock S2000, but its far as I'm attending college and working part time. Right now its more like getting in track time, mastering driving, then suspension, wheel, tires, brakes and finally the powertrain.

And the first reply is retarded, it will still cost less than the initial price of an S2000. The reason I chose an older car is my fascination of RX7s, the fact that it will be cheaper (shows people they don't need 25k+ to get into road racing), and the challenge of using a 20 year old suspension design against modern sports cars.

Brismo7

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Whats wrong with used/on sale items? Be smart when purchasing items. I've recently learned of a parts source that is unbelievably cheap, and VERY qaulity. Almost every single part on my car was bought second hand. the only things brand new, were the bushings, oils, filers, and radiator. literally. oh and some hardware.

Hence the Keep your eyes wide open and have cash readily available. Other than finding prices and gauging for future cost/expenses. Should you really be parts shopping with no money


Yep. my bushing install from a shop, including other minor services cost me almost $900. That is a lesson i learned. When i do it again, i will have the proper tools and save me that cash.



Why?
my car is pretty damn fast to. I think your 100% close minded on the situation

Rotary_Powerd

used parts save money. We're going off topic but..... as for the GTR, FC+FULL suspension+Light wheels+super sticky tires+ LS4+ LSD+ Aero bits+holy water. Anything is possible.

Healing

Benchmark - something that can be used for daily driving, and drift days.

Ideally:
Full Tamon design aero
Full interior, but perhaps with a 4 pt roll cage
Stock LS1/LS2

But only if I kept my car for that long. I might just end up selling it and buying a truck. And a 125cc shifter. Or maybe just an S2000 altogether.

KhanArtisT

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MAAYBE a stock GTR with the factory tires...thats still pushing it. It still depends on what type of course though, maybe a low speed twisty course, but a high speed track like the nurburgring I think the GTR would win...doesn't prove anything IMO. A fully built stripped FC on slicks outruns a stock GTR that can be driven to work everyday

An FC with its shitty interior and old school styling is a performance bargain...the only part of driving you should "enjoy" is outperforming cars that cost more to buy. For pure driving pleasure I'd much rather own something European. Just my .02 though, I guess some people are more competitive than others.

arghx

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benchmark? C6 Z06, especially in terms of straightline performance and power output. With my T04S turbo and supporting mods (and a 55 gallon drum of race gas at my house) I'll be close to that once I get a little more money together for an AVC-R boost controller. I may not have enough turbo though, although I have everything else I need (fuel, standalone, etc). I have decent handling mods too. bushings, non adjustable springs and shocks, sway bars. Just need better tires and eventually coilovers.

The only thing I have to prove is that I can tune this myself, by learning from my own mistakes and the mistakes of others. And if I blow the motor, well, fine. It's got s4 irons anyway, it's bound to pop.

lax-rotor

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My Bench Mark:
My local CarClub... They're Scary FAST.

Rotary_Powerd

hence the holy water reference, I meant it was very unlikely.

Oh and I love my car as is, but there is always room for improvement.

SE7ENS_GARAGE

my benchmark is my 1990 infini FC rx7 in my GT4 garage, 4** whp, 4** wtq...and i wana be able to switch settings from suspension to downforce using my ps2 controller...and of course that awesome 400 some odd mpg while constantly redlining every turn

on a serious note: i like how the OP put some thought to his mods, unlike some folks who strap on just about anythin

Healing

Yeah, well, cars are bad enough investments as it is already. They're an even worse investment when you start putting money into older cars O_o

FCs are great cars, but its hard to be closed minded when there are so many other great cars out there.

Oh, and to OP, if you want to be competitive with an S2000, you should definitely rethink progressive springs and HPs. Ewwwwwww

Black91n/a

I wouldn't trust the OBX diff as far as I could throw it. It's a whole system of inherently weak gears, and the only way they last a long time and can handle abuse is if they're built very well. Cheap stuff like OBX will not be made to the same standards and will not be as reliable or as strong. Spend the money on the good stuff. If you're planning on keeping the NA rear end, then a Miata torsen fits, the FD torsen fits the TII diff.

It's not about how often you track the car, it's about how it's driven when you're there. Some tracks are really hard on brakes and will fade race pads and fluid on stock cars. Other tracks are more forgiving. Don't count on street pads being ok. I've seen people at the track fighting braking issues all weekend and having to miss sessions and generally having a crappy time because they're on street pads. You'll also need to be sure that you've got fresh high temp fluid in the system.

dean23

im looking for a car with power in the 6lbs/hp range. so ill need power in the mid 5's to get that to the wheels. if i can get my cars weight down to around 2700lbs, ill need 450hp at the crank to accomplish my goal. all i REALLY need is a bigger turbo with some custom headers and a DP, and more fuel. suspension will be upgraded even more than it is now, and ill need some much wider tires, so that calls for some body work too. ill wait till i have around 10k to play wit ths project.

Black91n/a

I didn't say it can't be done, it's just unrealistic to expect that a tuned FC could soundly beat it. You'd need at minimum 400+hp, and probably V8 torque, hugely wide, very sticky tires, widebody, high end suspension set up by professionals, and so on. Basically a fully race prepped car. You may think your car's fast, but I can guarantee you it's not even close.

The Shaolin

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If I needed a big dyno number or a fast timeslip to be happy, I wouldn't have bought this car, I would buy a 5.0 mustang just like everyone else and be boring with it.

I bought this car because I've always been fascinated with the rotary...I just want to have fun with it. That's my "benchmark".

Brismo7

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How dare you insult my Rx7 by even mentioning big heavy 1950's american technology! Why would i want a tractor motor?




oh nevermind. i forgot about the ls1 residing in my engine bay...

Like i said, i have roughly 280RWHP on my bone stock engine. 400hp is roughly 1500 dollars and a tune away.


eh, your most likely right

daviddeep

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My thoughts exactly. I've been driving FCs for 12+ years now because I like them. Yeah, there are plenty of 21st Century cars that are faster or better in some way, and that is fine with me. If I really wanted that, I'd sell the FC and start saving for a 350Z, Boxster, S2000, or whatever.

Still, it is fun to squeeze a little extra performance out of the old technology without completely changing the character of the car. I guess I'd say my performance benchmark is to improve a little on what the car could do stock when it was new in the 80s. In the meantime, I enjoy it because it is a 20 year old car, not in spite of this. I like the roll-up windows, the 80s-futuristic interior, the outdated flip-up lights, etc. FCs are cool.

Healing

I bet you get so much traction on those stock TII wheels
Your LS1 looks like its mounted a lot lower than other LS1 swaps I've seen, what kit are you using? Or maybe it's just me. Looks good; it might not beat a new GTR, but I reckon you could get pretty close

Black91n/a

This reminds me of SCC doing a shootout between their project Toyota MRS (turbo, suspension mods, R's) and an Elise. Despite posting better performance numbers all around, on track it was a dead heat between the two with the Elise being much easier to drive. Just goes to show that there's a lot more to speed than speed tests.

I love pop-up lights

My benchmark would have to be whatever is out on the track with me on a given day

Brismo7

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Thanks man i appreciate the nice comments.

Traction? what is this word you speak of? i've never heard this before LMAO. yeah you dont get much traction on 205's. LMAFO

as for the kit, its actually more forward than some other cars. i'm using grannys kit and i'm using the front holes instead of the rear holes.

i know it cant beat a stock GTR in its current form. and i'd have to be an excellent driver to keep up with a skyline from a dig.(not happening anytime soon). so i'm realistic. ****, those new GTRs are so fast is re-dunk-ulous... this is my ultimate goal, to see the look on his 70k dollar face when he finally gets beat by this old *** mazda


For sure. definitely aggree there.