What's the best spark wires for FCs?
10-02-02, 11:29 PM
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10-02-02, 11:44 PM
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I have to agree with everything Dale said, except for the Jacobs wires.
I am running the Jacobs wires on my car, and I ran them on my last car. They have an extremely low resistance per foot, and are probably some of your best bang for the buck wires on the market.
I absolutely love the magnecor wires as well, probably my second favorite. The 10mm ones are fine, but you won't notice much (if any) of a gain switching from the 8.5mm wires unless you have some crazy ignition setup/requirements.
Jameson
I am running the Jacobs wires on my car, and I ran them on my last car. They have an extremely low resistance per foot, and are probably some of your best bang for the buck wires on the market.
I absolutely love the magnecor wires as well, probably my second favorite. The 10mm ones are fine, but you won't notice much (if any) of a gain switching from the 8.5mm wires unless you have some crazy ignition setup/requirements.
Jameson
10-03-02, 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by TonyTurboII
I was talking about going from 8.xmm to 10mm wires.
I was talking about going from 8.xmm to 10mm wires.
Did anyone notice that i said i wasnt going to debate this with anyone. I never said i was speaking to you directly. I'll say it again the CORE does get bigger from 8mm to 10mm period....
10-03-02, 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by HIMNI Racing
Did anyone notice that i said i wasnt going to debate this with anyone. I never said i was speaking to you directly. I'll say it again the CORE does get bigger from 8mm to 10mm period....
Did anyone notice that i said i wasnt going to debate this with anyone. I never said i was speaking to you directly. I'll say it again the CORE does get bigger from 8mm to 10mm period....
Compare core sizes from the SAME MANUFACTURER and you find ZERO difference in core sizes.  Several manufacturers even claim their is no difference between their "8mm" and "10mm" spark plugs wires.
-Ted
10-03-02, 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Supermac 7
I have to agree with everything Dale said, except for the Jacobs wires.
I am running the Jacobs wires on my car, and I ran them on my last car. They have an extremely low resistance per foot, and are probably some of your best bang for the buck wires on the market.
I absolutely love the magnecor wires as well, probably my second favorite. The 10mm ones are fine, but you won't notice much (if any) of a gain switching from the 8.5mm wires unless you have some crazy ignition setup/requirements.
Jameson
I have to agree with everything Dale said, except for the Jacobs wires.
I am running the Jacobs wires on my car, and I ran them on my last car. They have an extremely low resistance per foot, and are probably some of your best bang for the buck wires on the market.
I absolutely love the magnecor wires as well, probably my second favorite. The 10mm ones are fine, but you won't notice much (if any) of a gain switching from the 8.5mm wires unless you have some crazy ignition setup/requirements.
Jameson
If they work for you, great, but I really can't recommend them.
Dale
10-03-02, 10:21 AM
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The reason behind the 8mm to 10mm Magnecors are thicker silicone jackets. On many cars, especially V8's, the headers are RIGHT next to the spark plugs, and the plug wires take a LOT of heat abuse. We're lucky - the plugs on a rotary are on the "colder" side of the engine bay with the exhaust on the opposite side.
Anyhow, that's the only rationale. I got the 10mm wire because they were like $5 more.
Dale
Anyhow, that's the only rationale. I got the 10mm wire because they were like $5 more
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10-03-02, 10:27 AM
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WHAT the hell is this??? "GET my head out of my ***?"LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING JR..It seems to me that we are talking about what MANUFACTRUR makes the best plug wire!!!! ..............MANUFACTRUR................
"GET MY HEAD OUT OF MY ***''???? So why the **** would i talk about only one ......MANUFACTRUR.........? If i did would any of these posts be here? RETED JUST BEND OVER it's time to get served! Dale did a kick *** wright up.
"GET MY HEAD OUT OF MY ***''???? So why the **** would i talk about only one ......MANUFACTRUR.........? If i did would any of these posts be here? RETED JUST BEND OVER it's time to get served! Dale did a kick *** wright up.
10-03-02, 10:43 AM
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i have the taylor wires now, they are pretty good i've only had them for a few months but there good so far.
also, i had the jacobs on my last car they fit well i had 0 problems with them. the only reason i'd never run jacobs products again (unless they were free) is the price they are just WAY over priced for what they give performance wise.
james
also, i had the jacobs on my last car they fit well i had 0 problems with them. the only reason i'd never run jacobs products again (unless they were free) is the price they are just WAY over priced for what they give performance wise.
james
10-05-02, 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by HIMNI Racing
WHAT the hell is this??? "GET my head out of my ***?"LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING JR..It seems to me that we are talking about what MANUFACTRUR makes the best plug wire!!!! ..............MANUFACTRUR................
"GET MY HEAD OUT OF MY ***''???? So why the **** would i talk about only one ......MANUFACTRUR.........? If i did would any of these posts be here? RETED JUST BEND OVER it's time to get served! Dale did a kick *** wright up.
WHAT the hell is this??? "GET my head out of my ***?"LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING JR..It seems to me that we are talking about what MANUFACTRUR makes the best plug wire!!!! ..............MANUFACTRUR................
"GET MY HEAD OUT OF MY ***''???? So why the **** would i talk about only one ......MANUFACTRUR.........? If i did would any of these posts be here? RETED JUST BEND OVER it's time to get served! Dale did a kick *** wright up.
So tell me, what does having a larger core have anything to do with performance?  Hell, what does having less resistance have anything to do with performance?
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10-05-02, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
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So tell me, what does having a larger core have anything to do with performance?  Hell, what does having less resistance have anything to do with performance?
-Ted
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So tell me, what does having a larger core have anything to do with performance?  Hell, what does having less resistance have anything to do with performance?
-Ted
personally i've had good luck with Jacobs
10-05-02, 02:08 PM
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Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs. Core size, however, is only one of many factors to consider. When considering core size though, one must remember that at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns. Obviously, you want the wires that provide the least resistance, the most shielding, a perfect fit, and components that don't fall apart. I'm learning to ignore most opinion, and sift through the posts for the grains of fact contained therein, and make my own decisions based on the knowledge gained.
10-06-02, 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by kristopher_d
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs. Core size, however, is only one of many factors to consider. When considering core size though, one must remember that at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns. Obviously, you want the wires that provide the least resistance, the most shielding, a perfect fit, and components that don't fall apart. I'm learning to ignore most opinion, and sift through the posts for the grains of fact contained therein, and make my own decisions based on the knowledge gained.
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs. Core size, however, is only one of many factors to consider. When considering core size though, one must remember that at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns. Obviously, you want the wires that provide the least resistance, the most shielding, a perfect fit, and components that don't fall apart. I'm learning to ignore most opinion, and sift through the posts for the grains of fact contained therein, and make my own decisions based on the knowledge gained.
Kristopher- Good answer, that’s gotta be one the most intelligent replies I have seen all year!
Just to add…
As used in racing, Ultra wires are made using actual solid metal-centered wires, which are less prone to breakdown under extreme loads and high rpm. Their street versions have special resistors at each end to suppress ignition noise, which is normally associated when using metal-centered wires. Most ignition wires gradually deteriorate from constant flexing or vibration over time and can be permanently damaged from the simple pulling, tugging or folding when handled roughly. To justify costs, differences in power may be minimal but, IMO the Ultra Ignitions wires will give consistent performance over time, while lasting much longer.
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10-06-02, 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by kristopher_d
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs. Core size, however, is only one of many factors to consider. When considering core size though, one must remember that at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns. Obviously, you want the wires that provide the least resistance, the most shielding, a perfect fit, and components that don't fall apart. I'm learning to ignore most opinion, and sift through the posts for the grains of fact contained therein, and make my own decisions based on the knowledge gained.
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs. Core size, however, is only one of many factors to consider. When considering core size though, one must remember that at some point you run into the law of diminishing returns. Obviously, you want the wires that provide the least resistance, the most shielding, a perfect fit, and components that don't fall apart. I'm learning to ignore most opinion, and sift through the posts for the grains of fact contained therein, and make my own decisions based on the knowledge gained.
Kristopher- Good answer, that’s gotta be one the most intelligent replies I have seen all year!
Just to add…
As used in racing, Ultra wires are made using actual solid metal-centered wires, which are less prone to breakdown under extreme loads and high rpm. Their street versions have special resistors at each end to suppress ignition noise, which is normally associated when using metal-centered wires. Most ignition wires gradually deteriorate from constant flexing or vibration over time and can be permanently damaged from the simple pulling, tugging or folding when handled roughly. To justify costs, differences in power may be minimal but, IMO the Ultra Ignitions wires will give consistent performance over time, while lasting much longer.
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10-06-02, 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by kristopher_d
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs.
Larger core reduces resistance, thereby increasing voltage to the plugs.
Resistance of the spark plug wire really has NOTHING to do with the spark performance.  The circuit is really a DC voltage circuit.  The highest point of resistance of the DC voltage circuit is the spark plug gap.  Ever try to measure the resistance of a spark plug gap of around 0.040"?  Even the most resistive spark plug wires out there don't even come close to the resistance over the air gap of the spark plug.
This is one of the most widely accepted myths in car performance...
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10-07-02, 04:14 PM
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Street spark plug wires are the resistive type - they have a built-in resistance due to the design.  "Race" spark plug wires have NO resistance, and it's basically a straight piece of wire - large "pulses" of high voltage signal emit RFI (radio frequency interference) like mad - this screws up other electronics.  This is why you're not supposed to run race wires on a street car.
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Yo,
Resurrecting because it's a good thread...and I want to know the best place to get 10mm Magnecor's.
Mazdatrix has them for about $65.
Anyone else know of a better price/place?
Thanks!
Kevin
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Resurrecting because it's a good thread...and I want to know the best place to get 10mm Magnecor's.
Mazdatrix has them for about $65.
Anyone else know of a better price/place?
Thanks!
Kevin
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