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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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guys i agree with you with the meaning of a r7 and why it was built for the rotary but i was asking because this car would be for my stepmom thats all i love 13b's too just like the rest of us.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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o well it was just a question and yea im still a rotary fan iv been spending all my money into my t2 i just got the 13b re and now i need a bad *** turbo for my engine
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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personally i dont think an rx7 is suitable for your step mom.....considering the lack of grocery space and kidney rattling suspension...unless ur mom enjoys taking the corners like the rest of us...in that case she might enjoy the stock fc better......i think this is just a plot for u to get another FC in the house so u can swap parts with....first the tail lights.....then the monsterous tach and those neat little guages hiding above the head unit
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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because RX7s are designed to perform well over all...not just going down the 1/4 or from traffic light to traffic light..take that V8 rx7...then take a mildly modded(but still balanced) rx7 with a 13bt.....take it to a course with turns and u'll see why.......rx7 fans enjoy carving corners and taking on/off ramps



ohh yeah...we like the 8-9k rpm also.....that V8 only has half of that
You can make a V8 RX7 handle fine, hell, an LS1 can be lighter then a turbo rotary. On the same note, you don't argue that on 20B conversions...
You know an LS1 FD won it's class in SCCA? I believe he finished top 5 nationally...

You like revving to 9K eh? That's a pretty damn stupid argument. If you put a S/C on your rotary and peaked at 6K but made more power, would that be dumb to?

Icemark, you had bad luck with chevy motors, I had bad luck with my rotary (not its or my fault, previous owner beat on it). I'd think you're an intelligent enough person to not preach your opinion as fact.

Regardless, shouldn't this be moved to "other engine conversions" God forbid the narrow minded high school kids in this forum get the V8 idea in their head, then they'd be bugging us with questions about that AND putting a turbo in their 86 base for 200 dollars every day....

I'm not an anti rotary person, I just find it hilarious how close minded most of you people are. The sheep mentality of ****'s I swear.

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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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because RX7s are designed to perform well over all...not just going down the 1/4 or from traffic light to traffic light..take that V8 rx7...then take a mildly modded(but still balanced) rx7 with a 13bt.....take it to a course with turns and u'll see why.......rx7 fans enjoy carving corners and taking on/off ramps



ohh yeah...we like the 8-9k rpm also.....that V8 only has half of that

um my northstar does 6250 easily which is more than half, dont underestimate the northstar. and yeah im not attacking the rx7s design or anything its just some people like big power for straight lines, others like good handling or tight turns so its all based on preference.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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You can make a V8 RX7 handle fine, hell, an LS1 can be lighter then a turbo rotary. On the same note, you don't argue that on 20B conversions...
You know an LS1 FD won it's class in SCCA? I believe he finished top 5 nationally...

You like revving to 9K eh? That's a pretty damn stupid argument. If you put a S/C on your rotary and peaked at 6K but made more power, would that be dumb to?

Icemark, you had bad luck with chevy motors, I had bad luck with my rotary (not its or my fault, previous owner beat on it). I'd think you're an intelligent enough person to not preach your opinion as fact.

Regardless, shouldn't this be moved to "other engine conversions" God forbid the narrow minded high school kids in this forum get the V8 idea in their head, then they'd be bugging us with questions about that AND putting a turbo in their 86 base for 200 dollars every day....

I'm not an anti rotary person, I just find it hilarious how close minded most of you people are. The sheep mentality of ****'s I swear.


first..ur right.....V8s can be modded so it handles well..but i bet $100 that that V8 wont out perform a stock 7

on the 20B note......ever heard of a 20b rx7?.....no..cause the designer knew the importance of balance and decided against strengthing the chassie for the sake of power (didnt want to be another 300zx)

and sure....putting a S/C on a rotary might be a good idea..but if ur idea is cornering and nimblness......most people will say that a NA rx7 takes corners better than a T2(dont hate..i own a T2)....again..its about balance, having to shift while cornering cause the engine redlines at 4500 isnt exactly RX7 like.... if u think about the torque of that monster v8....the stock 205 wheels would do too well.....(he might have put on some bling bling aftermarket rims on it...i wasnt pay attention.. yellow paint+ bumper grill+huge tach+ADD= dont notice the rims..sorry)

and honestly....i like cars...i like to drive anything with wheels( except bicycles)....whether its domestic/import/hybrid whatever....FF/FR/MR its all a fun driving experience.....im not bashing the fact that its a V8...i driven a friends camero ss with the LS1 engine.....thing hauls ***..but the rx7 has its charasteristics..... i see ur all gungho about V8ing the rx7......but why....wouldnt it be cheaper just to get a car with the V8 already in it?......buying this car for the fact that "its a rx7 with a V8 motor in it " sounds stupid to me.....


ohh yeah..last note...i dont S/C...i T/C.....and it works fine all the way up to 8k.....
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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um my northstar does 6250 easily which is more than half, dont underestimate the northstar. and yeah im not attacking the rx7s design or anything its just some people like big power for straight lines, others like good handling or tight turns so its all based on preference.

haha..sorry...didnt get into the specifics of how high a piston engine can rev..last time i chcked the tech redline was in a 89 camero....as u can tell......its been a while
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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poor car...i dont think the redline warning will go off ever again......
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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I'm going to give my honest opinion here. I hate the color. I think the wheels are ugly. I think the wing looks tacky. I think one of these with stock looking wheels and a dark stock color like Burgandy or blue would be really cool. It'd be a pretty cool sleeper. The car looks too busy. Clean it up. take the rice and bling off and I'd hold a bit of respect for it. Actually I've been contemplating putting a V-8 in an FB.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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i feel bad for ur redline warning beep too inflatablepets...but hey..why not..do it...just not so flashy like this car...it'd actually would be kinda funny to see a FB with the sounds of american iron coming out the exhaust
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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actually Mazda Rotary's have been 1000% more reliable than any GM engined car anyone I have every known has had.

The car in the pictures has been butchered up (just look at the dash and front bumper shots) and has an unreliable piston engine in it... that is why it is worth so little to me.
Everyone has their own experiences. I've owned over 50 vehicles, all but one piston-powered. One of the piston engines developed a rod knock so I junked it as it was a $200 beater pickup. The rotary lasted 10 miles after I bought it and bought the farm. All the other cars, trucks and bikes ran fine. I'd buy another rotary, but I wouldn't want it to be my daily driver without a backup.

I agree that particular V8-powered RX7 is a bit much cosmetically. But I guarantee there are more riced-out rotaries on this forum than equally tacky V8 cars. The conversation never should have hinged on how good or bad the engine is. But that's just my two cents.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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god dam you guys all discrace people cars for there own likes if they like a V8 rx7 thats there problem you guys act like theres only a couple 100 rx7's out there theres a ******* bunch of em out there personally i like the car very nice on how everything came out i would buy it for a daily driver (it has the reliability of a piston engine) thats about it.
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ur right.....there are more than enough rx7s out there....and i've seen videos of AE86 and delorean with 3 rotor swap and u know what....its cool and all......not really worth the time and effort..sure its cool to do it on those cars..cause they're valueble....hey...with the 20b the delorean might actually hit 88mph and travel through time...but rx7s in general isnt really that special of a car, unless ur into initial D....besides the engine.....so why would u want to put something in there that didnt come from the factory?....its not like doing so makes people drop their jaw and go "awwwwwww" honestly people could care less about some outdated 80s car with a v8 in it.....most of the people i've met has no idea its a rx7....and even if they do recongize its a 7....most of them only likes it cause the wankel is totally different than what they drive....so if some guy pulls up next to u at a light.....asks "rotary huh" and u said no.."its a V8" it would sound pretty stupid IMO
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by torean
i feel bad for ur redline warning beep too inflatablepets...but hey..why not..do it...just not so flashy like this car...it'd actually would be kinda funny to see a FB with the sounds of american iron coming out the exhaust
It's funny how your opinion can't really be backed up. Take a look at the Grasroots $2004 challenge. Where's the highest rotary powered RX7 finish? 9th. V8 RX7? Third! Where does the rotary powered RX7 do better than the V8 powered RX7? Nowhere, not even in the autocross. It's been argued so many times before it's just a matter of whether you like to watch something spin round and round or up and down. Can you have a 400-500rwhp NA RX7?

What the hell do you mean it's not what the car was designed for. You think that has any bearing on what people will actually do with it? Come on, look at the roofline of the RX7, look at the deep recessed doorsills. The RX7 has an unbelievably good chassis that's better suited to taking big American power, and it sure as hell can handle better than Camaros and Firebirds.

And on the subject of reliability...Sorry about your bad experiences with GM motors, but that doesn't qualify piston motors as unreliable turds. Hell, us rotary folks are one to talk. Oops, engine overheated, time for a rebuild. Uh oh, I put in the wrong grade gas, there goes the second engine. Damn, I was road racing and my car ran lean for a split second, there goes engine #3! I mean come on. And how much do GM replacement parts cost?

Yes, this car has an ***-ugly paintjob and a r1cer wing, but saying it sucks because it has pistons is just plain ignorant.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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That car is way too bling. I wouldn't mind a stock rx7 with the rx ripped off and a v8 swap.
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I agree that particular V8-powered RX7 is a bit much cosmetically. But I guarantee there are more riced-out rotaries on this forum than equally tacky V8 cars. The conversation never should have hinged on how good or bad the engine is. But that's just my two cents.[/QUOTE]


ok..the point i was tying to make is that by fitting the V8 in there goes against the whole idea behind the rx7.....light, well balanced sports car....and yes..i know V8s can be balanced..but why redesign the wheel?...isnt that mazda engineer's job anyway?.....putting the v8 in there and u throw the 50/50 weight distribution out the door....and about the ricey rx7 owners out there...yes....they exist..with all those huge tachs/so many guages that u cant see out the front windshield anymore/ windshielf wiper lights...hey..whatever.....its their money and its their 7.....i just dont see the point...and back to the start...he was asking something about his stepmom and a car...well......i dont think his step mom would enjoy being revved at at every stop light on the way to shop-rite by stupid racers in their hopped up cars....and sadly....that car does draw attention....
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by badboi24u
hi this is a v8 rx7 and i was interested on what you guys on here would give for a car like this. I am not selling it just to make that clear dont mind the for sale sign at all i am just wondering what you guys would give for it. it has less then 2000 miles on v8 engine and nothing is wrong with the car.

If they remove the rice items and keep the motor in it I would say $1500.00-$2000.00 tops. But that is if everything was complete and drivable with out breaking anything. But the rice wing and front bumper would have to go.
That huge *** tach would have to go also.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Truthful I'd only pay 1k for it. Its an rx7, not a chevy. In my mind its worth less w/ that motor.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Can you have a 400-500rwhp NA RX7?.
u shoulda asked "can you have a 400-500RWHP NA rotary""

and the answer would be....

787B
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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787B
hey, i see tons of those four-rotor cars running around on the street. that's a bolt-in job, isn't it? I also said RX7. I don't mean to be an asshat, but that didn't really prove anything.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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rx7club has officially split up in 2
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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I agree that particular V8-powered RX7 is a bit much cosmetically. But I guarantee there are more riced-out rotaries on this forum than equally tacky V8 cars. The conversation never should have hinged on how good or bad the engine is. But that's just my two cents.[/QUOTE]


ok..the point i was tying to make is that by fitting the V8 in there goes against the whole idea behind the rx7.....light, well balanced sports car....and yes..i know V8s can be balanced..but why redesign the wheel?...isnt that mazda engineer's job anyway?.....putting the v8 in there and u throw the 50/50 weight distribution out the door...[/QUOTE]

Put in an LS1 V8 with a T-56 six speed manual transmission and you will have...guess what...a car that has 49/51 F/R weight distro. Get over it, that's a myth that only applies to budget V8 conversions like the L98. Hell, put in a carbeurated 302, those motors (with aluminum heads) are pretty much lighter than 13B-Ts. Don't rag on something if you don't know about it.
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rx7club has officially split up in 2
Bahahaha, only if you want it to. I'm not doing anything except putting out my opinion. If you take offense to it, that's on you, man.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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Truthful I'd only pay 1k for it. Its an rx7, not a chevy. In my mind its worth less w/ that motor.

so true.....just like a stock civic Vs a riced out civic with H22 swap with NOS and turbo......KBB will give the same quote
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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so true.....just like a stock civic Vs a riced out civic with H22 swap with NOS and turbo......KBB will give the same quote
Modified cars SHOULD cost less than stock cars, but that's not how it works in the minds of most people buying cars these days.
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sure it might worth more to someone.....similarly...it'll worth less with someone else



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