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Old 08-28-05, 06:59 PM
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What is this plastic box found on non turbo and turbo cars/series four?

What is this box. Plastic box. It has it's name on it. It's found near the Knock box on a turbo. It is attached to the FRONT harness, passengers well, up and to the right?

It's name is MOTOR FAILURE. Sorry, but the engine runs just fine without it. Maybe a theft? suspension? whatever? box.

The Mazda number can be read on it.
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Old 08-28-05, 07:34 PM
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Parts manual says A/T control unit for that part number
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Hailers - I'd agree with RxSevenSymphonies. I can definately tell you that my FC did NOT have that anywhere at all forward of the seats (the knock box on a turbo is on the passanger outside footwell, right?) So it's probably an A/T unit. The only suspension thing that I know of is in the VERY back of the car, near the rear window washer resivoir, and that's a very large silver box, with connections at the bottom.
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Originally Posted by RXSevenSymphonies
Parts manual says A/T control unit for that part number
Well I'll be darned. I'd have bet a twenty dollar bill I'd get no answers on that. Odd though that it was found also on a turbo car. Last time I looked they didn't have autos on turbo cars. Odd.
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Yea for the turbo section it just says control unit with no explanation of what it's for, but didn't they have auto turbo's over in japan, so maybe they used the same control unit for it?
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I did go to the parts fische AFTER you told me what it was, and sure enough it's for A/T cars. That's all I need to know. Once I saw A/T I lost interest. Just another plug to use as a source of power for ?????? whatever. Did I say THANK YOU? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=bcool]Motor Failure [/QU

Well I'll be. I did some research in the free, online fsm, Chapter 36 of the 87 fsm to be exact, and it appears this item is a Anti-Motor Failure Module. As long as it's plugged in the harness, the motor won't fail. That explains why I have no motor problems. Thanks for the help.
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Better leave it plugged in then!

It is an incredibly bizarre name to print on the thing. Must have lost something in translation! If that "90W" printed on it means 90 Watts, it sure eats up a whack of power! 7.5 amps.

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Originally Posted by HAILERS
Well I'll be. I did some research in the free, online fsm, Chapter 36 of the 87 fsm to be exact, and it appears this item is a Anti-Motor Failure Module. As long as it's plugged in the harness, the motor won't fail. That explains why I have no motor problems. Thanks for the help.

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Damn!

I thought this little box what the knock box! lol Can anybody take a pic of the knock box to show me what it looks like?

thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by TII '87
Damn!

I thought this little box what the knock box! lol Can anybody take a pic of the knock box to show me what it looks like?

thanks a lot.

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You asked, and here it is. A genuine series four Knock Box. Series five are built in the ECU.

It's about twice the size of the MOTOR FAIL box. It's within inches of the Motor Fail box.
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wow! that was quick!

thanks hailer.
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does the knock box have a removable plate on the back?
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How can something so little stop engine failure, I dont see it here!! If the engine is gonna fail nothing gonna stop it from doing it.
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Originally Posted by jgrts20
How can something so little stop engine failure, I dont see it here!! If the engine is gonna fail nothing gonna stop it from doing it.
Although there is such a box, much of this thread was tongue in cheek. Humor. Jest. Don't take any of my posts too seriously.
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No no, HAILERS, you're missing it. The big one is the knock sensor, that senses the knock, and then tells the little box when it's time to blow the motor. Then the Motor Failure box explodes your car.
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
What is this box. Plastic box. It has it's name on it. It's found near the Knock box on a turbo. It is attached to the FRONT harness, passengers well, up and to the right?

It's name is MOTOR FAILURE. Sorry, but the engine runs just fine without it. Maybe a theft? suspension? whatever? box.

The Mazda number can be read on it.

Dude, you didnt start it with out that did you?????


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help me

would this box have n e thing to do wit spark???
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[QUOTE=HAILERS]
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Motor Failure [/QU

Well I'll be. I did some research in the free, online fsm, Chapter 36 of the 87 fsm to be exact, and it appears this item is a Anti-Motor Failure Module. As long as it's plugged in the harness, the motor won't fail. That explains why I have no motor problems. Thanks for the help.
yeah that little box was a hit at sevenstock 5....

i think it is some kinda relay box for the auxillary fan
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Sell it on E-bay as a special JDM module that ensures that your motor will not blow up. Some idiot would probly pay a bunch of cash for it.
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yeah man you totally could! Custom JDM control module, senses health of apex, oil, and coolant seals and slows the engine if it senses failure!

$3999
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i need to get one of them. is that buy it now or the auction price?
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Originally Posted by jono20
yeah man you totally could! Custom JDM control module, senses health of apex, oil, and coolant seals and slows the engine if it senses failure!

$3999
Make sure and add a Type-R sticker to the box, make a toggle switch coming off it as well for "SLOW" so people can slow down their cars when they arent making those mad quik shifts y0
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
yeah that little box was a hit at sevenstock 5....

i think it is some kinda relay box for the auxillary fan

BINGO! That's what it is for. My lazy *** never looked at the wiring diagrams and the wire colors off its plug. You be top dog bro.

It's really a shame. I've looked at the electric fan schematic and even posted jpg's of it on the site, but never acutally looked for that Cooling Fan Control Unit.


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