2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Vibrations with light weight flywheel

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-08-09, 04:19 PM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Vibrations with light weight flywheel

I just installed an ACT street light flywheel and Z65-HDG6 clutch. I started my car for the first time today and it feels like I have a little more engine vibrations than before. Is this normal with lighter flywheels?

I have solid motor mounts so my car vibrated more than stock, and I haven't driven it in 3 months so I cann't say for 100% it is worse. It is a mild vibration, nothing crazy.

I had some issues figuring out which counterweight to use. I used an S5 counterweight because my stock N370 flywheel worked with my engine combination.
Old 11-08-09, 04:25 PM
  #2  
THE Mazdabator

 
Mechanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 597
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i have solid mounts and a aluminum flywheel.. uh... as far as i cna remember, it didnt vibrate much until acceleration. then the car buzzes a little... thats about it.... sorry its been 2 years, but make sure your counter weight is perfect, i did a 5 spd swap so i used original counter weight.
Old 11-08-09, 04:33 PM
  #3  
water jacket mod??!

iTrader: (20)
 
gkarmadi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ontario
Posts: 1,431
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have a lightweight flywhell (11lb) and polyurethane engine mount. I didn't really notice of vibration @ idle, but if I don't put enough gas during 1st gear acceleration then it vibrates (shake) a bit.
I have to put around 2000rpm to take off smoothly (on 1st gear) from a stop.
Old 11-08-09, 04:43 PM
  #4  
Corea FD
iTrader: (8)
 
FDSeoul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,378
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i also run ACT light fly wheel. one of my greatest errors in judgment on owning the FD. the trade off for performance gain of a light weight is not worth it in my opinion. I also have to engage at a higher rpm or else the whole F**King car feels like it falling apart.
Old 11-09-09, 05:44 AM
  #5  
Zoom Zoom Boom

 
GeTCrAzYKiD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 336
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
get under the car, remove the inspection plate in the bellhousing and use a pry bar ( with good leverage) and pry on your fly wheel, make sure its not loose. I did this on my first rebuild. It would vibrate until I got to higher rpms, and at idle it would vibrate unless I pressed the clutch, and this is what I found. Loose *** fly wheel..no fun but it happens.
Old 11-09-09, 07:45 AM
  #6  
version 2.0

iTrader: (17)
 
texFCturboII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 3,590
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Make sure you have the correct series counterweight installed on your flywheel

Edit: Re-reading your post sounds like you've got a franken-rotor. Find out from whoever built your engine what series rotors they used, the counterweight needs to match the rotors in series.
Old 11-10-09, 07:51 PM
  #7  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
video attempt 1

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J5XhlLzh8s

Here's a video, if it works.....
Old 11-10-09, 07:55 PM
  #8  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So the video works. The sound might be a better indicator than the spray can on the intake.

Now that I got this video think down I'll try to get a better one.
Old 11-22-09, 02:38 PM
  #9  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GeTCrAzYKiD
get under the car, remove the inspection plate in the bellhousing and use a pry bar ( with good leverage) and pry on your fly wheel, make sure its not loose. I did this on my first rebuild. It would vibrate until I got to higher rpms, and at idle it would vibrate unless I pressed the clutch, and this is what I found. Loose *** fly wheel..no fun but it happens.
I check my flywheel it was good and tight. After I put my exhaust hangers back in and the vibration when down a little.

I finally was able to drive it and the vibration has changed. At 2000 rpm in low gears there a increase in vibration, at idle there is almost no vibration (like stock), and above 2000 rpm in the low gear there is a little extra vibration, and in 4th and 5th gear it almost goes away (more than stock, but not enough to get your attention).

I think I might try to change out my engine and trany mounts and then run it into the ground. I'll balance the whole assembly when I rebuild the engine in a year or so.
Old 11-22-09, 04:16 PM
  #10  
87 SE WITH S5 T2 SWAP

iTrader: (11)
 
joeylyrech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: allentown pa
Posts: 2,071
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
i have a s5 turbo motor with os giken double plate setup flywheel and correct matching CW and it vibrates at around 4k if im free revving,it makes noise and you can feel the vibration on the shifter,the motor is being apart a couple of times and the bearings showed abnormal wear,this time the whole assembly is getting balanced and i hope that the the issue stops but il still bugs my mind why it does that.
Old 11-22-09, 04:23 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
dpf22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Logan Utah
Posts: 409
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Honestly I think that just getting the right series of counterweight might not be enough. I had my rotors (s4TII) lightened to s6(fd) spec then balanced with the front and rear counterweights from an s5 and weight was taken off even though they were supposed to be the same spec. I have a Fidanza aluminum light flywheel and the car is butter smooth at all rpm even with solid mounts. Hell I can't even tell its running when I come to a stop if there is too much noise around me. There is a lot to be said about factory "balance". I don't think your vibration is much to worry about. The sound I heard on the video sounds more like a bad front thrust but I could be hearing it wrong.
Old 11-22-09, 05:54 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dpf22
Honestly I think that just getting the right series of counterweight might not be enough. I had my rotors (s4TII) lightened to s6(fd) spec then balanced with the front and rear counterweights from an s5 and weight was taken off even though they were supposed to be the same spec. I have a Fidanza aluminum light flywheel and the car is butter smooth at all rpm even with solid mounts. Hell I can't even tell its running when I come to a stop if there is too much noise around me. There is a lot to be said about factory "balance". I don't think your vibration is much to worry about. The sound I heard on the video sounds more like a bad front thrust but I could be hearing it wrong.
You might be right I ran a Camden Supercharger for years and they are bad on the front thrust. I'll look into that.
Old 05-17-10, 03:56 PM
  #13  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thread clean up

So my issue was the counter weight. I put on a different S5 weight and the vibrations went away. I must have had a random counterweight for modified or for a weird engine. I have not yet found it's origin. I marked it permanently with "Bad" to prevent any more headaches.
Old 05-17-10, 08:19 PM
  #14  
Retired Moderator, RIP

iTrader: (142)
 
misterstyx69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
Posts: 25,581
Likes: 0
Received 131 Likes on 114 Posts
where did you get the Counterweight.the bad one?
If you bought it separately from someone,then my Guess is that it could have been the wrong counterweight.
Old 05-17-10, 08:37 PM
  #15  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Supercharged FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
where did you get the Counterweight.the bad one?
If you bought it separately from someone, then my Guess is that it could have been the wrong counterweight.
This weight has a long horrible history. I bought it on eBay, was told it was an S4 from a store I have had good luck with. I did not have a clutch yet so my buddy tried it on his S4, caused a horrible vibration. My dumb *** thought, "hey it must be an S5, it has all the right markings" I was wrong.

That's four trany pulls in Michigan winters over a $100 part.

So it not an S4 or S5 and doesn't meet the mazdatrix criteria for any other year.

It's cursed.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
whinin
Introduce yourself
17
03-30-19 07:53 PM
rx7shirley
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
6
09-02-15 02:11 PM



Quick Reply: Vibrations with light weight flywheel



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 AM.