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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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ok, first warm day and I want to put down the top on my 88 vert for the first time. I reaf the owners man. put the brake on and car is running... undo the locks and hit the button. I see the dome light dim so I know the motors are doing something but it didnt move. SO I just lay the top down and fold it in. no biggie. same issue putting the top up. I fold up the targa and hit the button nothing but the beep. so I lift the roof and latch it. again no biggie. My question... did I miss something? and am I wrecking anything? the top seemed to move freely.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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If you can move the top by hand, the motors are either disengaged (A phillips head screw) or disconnected.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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ok not to sound like to much of a newb but, in your opinion was it disconnected or broken? is it a common problem to break like that? is it an easy fix.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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I would check the motors with a phillips, while the top is up, following the steps in http://www.cabrio7.org/rx7man14.html, specifically step 2, but counterclockwise, to engage the motors - if you turn the screws counter-clockwise to their stops, and you can still move the top by hand then either the linkage is disconnected on both sides, or both sides are broken.


Hint: I doubt bothe linkages are broken.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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well THANKS Karl!!!I followed your steps and it works! I am wondering though... is there any type of circut breaker on those motors? I put it down twice and then it stopped... I disconnected the linkage again (after checking fuses) and the repeated your advice and it works again... I am going to leave it alone for now but other than keeping a phillips in the glove box... any suggestions?
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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No idea - I have never had that problem, except when my parking brake wasn't all the way up, or the switch was bad.

Perhaps some of the more knolegable people will add to this.

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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does the car have to be running to put it down cuz i just now got a key for my vert project and the top wont go down but i cant get the car started either. i hear the motors so i dunno.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Vert Top

No the car does not have to be running to put the top down or up as long as their is sufficent charge in the battery then the top should operate normally with the car off.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by widget88-rx7
well THANKS Karl!!!I followed your steps and it works! I am wondering though... is there any type of circut breaker on those motors? I put it down twice and then it stopped... I disconnected the linkage again (after checking fuses) and the repeated your advice and it works again... I am going to leave it alone for now but other than keeping a phillips in the glove box... any suggestions?


Sound like a bad switch to me of you still have to adjust those motors.....
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kaot1k
No the car does not have to be running to put the top down or up as long as their is sufficent charge in the battery then the top should operate normally with the car off.
AND you have the Ebrake on.

what would we do without the internet! since resetting the motors that second time I went out and opened and shut it a few times. soooo (knock on wood) I am hoping I am all set!! Thanks again!
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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I didn't understand if it moved electrically or you had to move it manually.

If it did move a bit electrically and has been sitting awhile it probably needs lubrication and some excersize. You should lubricate the linkages with some silicone grease. Sometimes mine sticks a bit. If mine doesn't move immediately, I let off the switch wait a second and try again. That gets it moving. It will move without the engine running, but that's not a good idea. Terrible drain on the battery.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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redo the solder joints on the switches, it will work fine. i know your problem was with the motors being disengaged but these joints have a tendancy to loosen up over the years, sevens are bouncy cars at times...lol
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