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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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vert power windows to manuel?

i have an 89 convertable with power windows and i want to know if i can change them out to be manuel. i know the window lengths are different but other then that it should bbe fine right?
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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id recommend it acutally. i converted 2 cars.

step 1 - roll the widow down about half way

step 2 - take a 10mm socket with an extension and unbolt the 4 bottom bolts and 2 top bolts in the middle of the door (after removing the interior panel of course...).

step 3 - stick the socket inside the holes on the door and remove the 2 bolts/screws holding the glass in place. Be carefull not to juggle the glass loose and have it drop and crack...

step 3 - gently pry the window weather molding off and unplug the power motor.

carefully slide the glass up and out at an angle set it aside. pull the motor/track out and the installation of the new manual track should be self explanitory.

it takes me 5 minutes per window now that i know how to do it so its easy to figure it out.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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to remove the interior panel there should be 4 screws on the armrest, 1 screw on the handle trim, 1 screw behind the handle trim, 3? screws on the bottom of the panel and maybe 1 or 2 others misc placed.. you will have to either find manual interior door panels or cut holes in yours for the cranks. you can keep the handle with the switch or find a switchless handle. its up to you how good or ghetto you want it to look.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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awsome thanks for the write up. one question. up above are you talking about removing the triangle piece of glass or no? i was just thinking of using the vert window but making it manuel.
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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i foudn some black door panels that are manuel. is the vert and coupe glass the same as far as the bolt holes?
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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I did it. Mine is 88 vert but IFIK manual window track from coupe won't fit vert.

See https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/vert-manual-window-396102/
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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awsome thanks i hope i dont have to do to much to make this work. i just bought some black manuel door panels. i cant wait
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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All you have to do is drill new bolt holes if the vert and coupe tracks have different "bolt patterns". the coupe glass should work on the vert, but you probably want to keep the 2 piece glass.

So the vert track is a couple more inches to the left and the coupe cable isnt long enough? I didn't think about that... I guess you could mount the new manual crank wherever it will reach and drill new holes for it. Then cut out a hole in the AUTO door panel for the crank...

But, can't you just rig up a longer cable or something?
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Manual windows with the counterweight are heavier than the power windows on the vert. Not getting why anyone would do this.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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because power anything will fail eventually just like manual will but if power fails your fucked and i dont like that.

so now i dont get this. why cant i just swap everything in there like it would be in the coupe and just drill new holes for the mounting of the vert glass?

k i was looking over at that link and you used the verts guides. see i have a complete manuel setup for an 89 gtu. i should just be able to swap everything from the manuel doors to the vert doors right? and just drill new holes for the vert glass right? then wualah... i hope

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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right couldnt i just do that? i need someones opinion on taking a manuel setup for my 89 gtu coupe and putting it into my ver but keeping the vert glass and drilling new holes for the vert glass in the assembly
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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The front and center guides on the vert are different than the coupe. You would not be able to use the coupe glass. You have to use the vert glass.

So you either follow what kiyoshi did, or you come up with your own way.
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the mirrors may break next, convert them now to manual.


I mean really why would you take out the power windows if they are not broken?
The door panels are different, the regulator different, the glass different.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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The motor will break as well, better take it out and start pushing the car around town.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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ok i dont want to hear about motors breaking and **** ok i just want to know a simple thing.

i do NOT want to use the couple glass.
i WANT to use the vert glass on the coupe manuel runner
is that possible? all i should have to do is drill new holes on the runners to make the VERT window fit on the MANUEL runner. RIGHT?????

oh FIY i just plain and simple dont like power windows thats all. cant someone not like power windows and try to ask simple questions on how to transfer his power vert windows to manuel? i mean come on and blank off

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Thread closed for flaming by the originator and the question had been answered several times.




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