Vert = better for drifting?
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From: Richmond, VA
Originally posted by Cory Simpson
And worry about not setting a one tire fire!!!
Because I did some do-nuts in my vert last night.... and about all it did was leave some good one tire fires!
But it was fun
And worry about not setting a one tire fire!!!
Because I did some do-nuts in my vert last night.... and about all it did was leave some good one tire fires!
But it was fun
In retrospect though, I wished I had dropped the whole rear subframe...The whole 2 feet of extenstions to the outside of the car was a PITA.
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^I hope that's a ******* joke!
If it's not, I'm gonna find you! You just jelous!!! You've never had the joy, of riding with the top down, on a cool night with the stars out!!!!
An unbelivable experiance!
Those chasis reinforcers would only help movement in the direction of left to right. Were as the convertible needs the reinforcement going from front to back.
Although the movement is vert little if any. Otherwise your doors wouldn't ever close right.... And your top wouldn't line up.
Half of you are just talking like mazda just hacked the top off of a coupe, and called it the convertible model.....
Man I hate Florida! I swear we should just cut that **** off the US, and send it to Cuba!
Anyone who hates the vert just needs to go back to there 3rd world country!!!
Now go away, and roll me cigars!
If it's not, I'm gonna find you! You just jelous!!! You've never had the joy, of riding with the top down, on a cool night with the stars out!!!!
An unbelivable experiance!
didnt icemark say the verts top has the same stability as the coupes top when its up and locked within 1%? and couldnt u get a rear and front strut tower bar to help?
Those chasis reinforcers would only help movement in the direction of left to right. Were as the convertible needs the reinforcement going from front to back.
Although the movement is vert little if any. Otherwise your doors wouldn't ever close right.... And your top wouldn't line up.
Half of you are just talking like mazda just hacked the top off of a coupe, and called it the convertible model.....
Man I hate Florida! I swear we should just cut that **** off the US, and send it to Cuba!
Anyone who hates the vert just needs to go back to there 3rd world country!!!
Now go away, and roll me cigars!
I wanta be with the BUC!
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From: Knoxville, TN
The solution is only a GXL diff away
I've got a TII rear subframe with an FD TORSEN in it, that will go in soon enough.....I'm not to worried about it though. Not like I have tons of HP, me and my 150 HP don't need it yet
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From: Rohnert Park CA
Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
i dont like the verts......what was mazda thinking......same thing with nissan and the vert s13....what were they thinking....i just hate convertibles.
i dont like the verts......what was mazda thinking......same thing with nissan and the vert s13....what were they thinking....i just hate convertibles.
The vert was built on its own production line from the bottom up. It wasn't a silly S13 or Z/ZX or even FWD Celica that started as a coupe, and someone cut the roof off and bolted some parts on and hoped that it would be strong enough to last 10 years.
The 'vert is one of the best handling RX-7s regardless of generation. It was built with increased structural supports. With the top's integrated roll bar, and properly adjusted latches, the vert frame is stiffer than any SA/FB and pretty close to the stiffness of a regualr FC coupe.
Toss in the ability for that same roll bar to fold into the back of the car, and provide the same side to side strength as when the top is up. Yet the best is too come... driving a vert. Top down, Mazda's windblocker up and you can have a conversation or listen to the radio while driving at 85 mph through that mountain switch back. Just like (if not better than) a coupe.
If there are any true weaknesses, the rear vision is limted with the top up (but still night and day better than a 350Z coupe) and in American form, the vert was slightly underpowered (but not as bad as a NA (first gen Miata) is).
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Originally posted by Icemark
another clueless person that has never driven a 'vert.
The vert was built on its own production line from the bottom up. It wasn't a silly S13 or Z/ZX or even FWD Celica that started as a coupe, and someone cut the roof off and bolted some parts on and hoped that it would be strong enough to last 10 years.
The 'vert is one of the best handling RX-7s regardless of generation. It was built with increased structural supports. With the top's integrated roll bar, and properly adjusted latches, the vert frame is stiffer than any SA/FB and pretty close to the stiffness of a regualr FC coupe.
Toss in the ability for that same roll bar to fold into the back of the car, and provide the same side to side strength as when the top is up. Yet the best is too come... driving a vert. Top down, Mazda's windblocker up and you can have a conversation or listen to the radio while driving at 85 mph through that mountain switch back. Just like (if not better than) a coupe.
If there are any true weaknesses, the rear vision is limted with the top up (but still night and day better than a 350Z coupe) and in American form, the vert was slightly underpowered (but not as bad as a NA (first gen Miata) is).
another clueless person that has never driven a 'vert.
The vert was built on its own production line from the bottom up. It wasn't a silly S13 or Z/ZX or even FWD Celica that started as a coupe, and someone cut the roof off and bolted some parts on and hoped that it would be strong enough to last 10 years.
The 'vert is one of the best handling RX-7s regardless of generation. It was built with increased structural supports. With the top's integrated roll bar, and properly adjusted latches, the vert frame is stiffer than any SA/FB and pretty close to the stiffness of a regualr FC coupe.
Toss in the ability for that same roll bar to fold into the back of the car, and provide the same side to side strength as when the top is up. Yet the best is too come... driving a vert. Top down, Mazda's windblocker up and you can have a conversation or listen to the radio while driving at 85 mph through that mountain switch back. Just like (if not better than) a coupe.
If there are any true weaknesses, the rear vision is limted with the top up (but still night and day better than a 350Z coupe) and in American form, the vert was slightly underpowered (but not as bad as a NA (first gen Miata) is).
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Originally posted by sa22c_Drifter
i dont like the verts......what was mazda thinking......same thing with nissan and the vert s13....what were they thinking....i just hate convertibles.
i dont like the verts......what was mazda thinking......same thing with nissan and the vert s13....what were they thinking....i just hate convertibles.
To each their own
.... But I like my vert
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From: San Jose, CA
Originally posted by Icemark
another clueless person that has never driven a 'vert.
The vert was built on its own production line from the bottom up. It wasn't a silly S13 or Z/ZX or even FWD Celica that started as a coupe, and someone cut the roof off and bolted some parts on and hoped that it would be strong enough to last 10 years.
The 'vert is one of the best handling RX-7s regardless of generation. It was built with increased structural supports. With the top's integrated roll bar, and properly adjusted latches, the vert frame is stiffer than any SA/FB and pretty close to the stiffness of a regualr FC coupe.
Toss in the ability for that same roll bar to fold into the back of the car, and provide the same side to side strength as when the top is up. Yet the best is too come... driving a vert. Top down, Mazda's windblocker up and you can have a conversation or listen to the radio while driving at 85 mph through that mountain switch back. Just like (if not better than) a coupe.
If there are any true weaknesses, the rear vision is limted with the top up (but still night and day better than a 350Z coupe) and in American form, the vert was slightly underpowered (but not as bad as a NA (first gen Miata) is).
another clueless person that has never driven a 'vert.
The vert was built on its own production line from the bottom up. It wasn't a silly S13 or Z/ZX or even FWD Celica that started as a coupe, and someone cut the roof off and bolted some parts on and hoped that it would be strong enough to last 10 years.
The 'vert is one of the best handling RX-7s regardless of generation. It was built with increased structural supports. With the top's integrated roll bar, and properly adjusted latches, the vert frame is stiffer than any SA/FB and pretty close to the stiffness of a regualr FC coupe.
Toss in the ability for that same roll bar to fold into the back of the car, and provide the same side to side strength as when the top is up. Yet the best is too come... driving a vert. Top down, Mazda's windblocker up and you can have a conversation or listen to the radio while driving at 85 mph through that mountain switch back. Just like (if not better than) a coupe.
If there are any true weaknesses, the rear vision is limted with the top up (but still night and day better than a 350Z coupe) and in American form, the vert was slightly underpowered (but not as bad as a NA (first gen Miata) is).
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A 'vert is gonna become my daily driver after my coupe becomes my weekend warrior. It'll be a crusier, chick-picker-upper, not a powerhouse. I think the verts are ****** awesome for just that- cruisin topless on a warm sunny day with a hot chick next to ya. mmhmm
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From: Hawaii
Originally posted by ERAUMAZDA
More retards then I thought.
More retards then I thought.
remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so 
and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
Last edited by skunks; Apr 7, 2004 at 02:58 AM.
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I have a t2/vert and I love it. Not to mention now that I have 10 grand going inner for this summer. It will be a 375-400 rwhp convertible beast that will out handle most on the road. Oh yeah I am installing a custom rool bar in a few weeks. Because I agree with you on flipping one with a bar.
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Didn't anyone read icemark's post- the one which said both "integrated roll bar" and "rigidity within 1% of the coupe"? Skunk- you been breathin too many epoxy fumes, biznitch. Don't hate on the vert.
As for you, Buk, I hate you. You are driving MY CAR- give it back!!!!
As for you, Buk, I hate you. You are driving MY CAR- give it back!!!!
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Originally posted by skunks
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...
oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then
remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
And why would you be ejected... unless maybe you were too dumb to wear seat belts???
And you have to be doing something very very very very stupied to roll a FC and even more stupied to roll a FC3C. I sure wouldn't want to admit that I had a friend that is that clueless or just lacks any common sense and driving skills.
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Originally posted by skunks
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...
oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then
remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
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Originally posted by skunks
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...
oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
just wait till you flip/roll in one, we will see what you say then
remember, we are talking about drift here, i have seen a fc (a friend of mines) flip/roll with in the last month or so and if he was in a vert, he would be dead...oh and when you do flip/roll, please post pics. I can't wait to see what happens
also, if you happen to hit something or if someone hits you and you get ejected, please post pics of that too
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Originally posted by Icemark
And you have to be doing something very very very very stupied to roll a FC and even more stupied to roll a FC3C. I sure wouldn't want to admit that I had a friend that is that clueless or just lacks any common sense and driving skills.
And you have to be doing something very very very very stupied to roll a FC and even more stupied to roll a FC3C. I sure wouldn't want to admit that I had a friend that is that clueless or just lacks any common sense and driving skills.
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Thanks for the info, I was kind of worried about rolling and what not before this. I had no idea they designed the vert so well... thanks! I dont mind that its so heavy now
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From: Hawaii
Originally posted by Icemark
actually the re-enforments to the A -pillers alone make the car able to withstand a roll. Add in if the top was up and you are perfectly safe from even road grime during a roll.
And why would you be ejected... unless maybe you were too dumb to wear seat belts???
And you have to be doing something very very very very stupied to roll a FC and even more stupied to roll a FC3C. I sure wouldn't want to admit that I had a friend that is that clueless or just lacks any common sense and driving skills.
actually the re-enforments to the A -pillers alone make the car able to withstand a roll. Add in if the top was up and you are perfectly safe from even road grime during a roll.
And why would you be ejected... unless maybe you were too dumb to wear seat belts???
And you have to be doing something very very very very stupied to roll a FC and even more stupied to roll a FC3C. I sure wouldn't want to admit that I had a friend that is that clueless or just lacks any common sense and driving skills.
as for the a-pillars being reinforced, i dont trust it (i dont even really trust regular cars with hard tops, i trust 4130 full cages)
and as for my friend, i bet he could out drive you any day of the week! like i said before, freak accidents happen all the time and this just happened to be one of them.
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
^I hope that's a ******* joke!
If it's not, I'm gonna find you! You just jelous!!! You've never had the joy, of riding with the top down, on a cool night with the stars out!!!!
An unbelivable experiance!
Those chasis reinforcers would only help movement in the direction of left to right. Were as the convertible needs the reinforcement going from front to back.
Although the movement is vert little if any. Otherwise your doors wouldn't ever close right.... And your top wouldn't line up.
Half of you are just talking like mazda just hacked the top off of a coupe, and called it the convertible model.....
Man I hate Florida! I swear we should just cut that **** off the US, and send it to Cuba!
Anyone who hates the vert just needs to go back to there 3rd world country!!!
Now go away, and roll me cigars!
^I hope that's a ******* joke!
If it's not, I'm gonna find you! You just jelous!!! You've never had the joy, of riding with the top down, on a cool night with the stars out!!!!
An unbelivable experiance!
Those chasis reinforcers would only help movement in the direction of left to right. Were as the convertible needs the reinforcement going from front to back.
Although the movement is vert little if any. Otherwise your doors wouldn't ever close right.... And your top wouldn't line up.
Half of you are just talking like mazda just hacked the top off of a coupe, and called it the convertible model.....
Man I hate Florida! I swear we should just cut that **** off the US, and send it to Cuba!
Anyone who hates the vert just needs to go back to there 3rd world country!!!
Now go away, and roll me cigars!
And yes I KNOW THAT THE VERT IS NOT A COUPE WITH NO ROOF. I don't have a problem with the desing of the convertible I know it can handle just as good or close to a coupe i just don't like the desing of it....of any convertible, s13, fc, z32, z33, corvettes, mustangs, ect... I just hate convertibles. I don't fabble anyone's opinion here, why do you fabble mine.