fdlon

After some discussion with a tuner the guy told me that I must stop taking advises or buying products from the US because there are different cars there than Europe.Does anyone confirm that because I hardly believe him.He insisted that buying fuel management systems from the US(tuning paradise)wont work here in Greece.If there were any changes does anyone know what are they.
Mazda among other resourses claim that the car(1991 T2)when new had 202hp from the factory if that helps

The Ace

Which one was he ?

I've got to know, in case I ever want to go there....

Another one from Greece with a T2....we're growing by the minute

PS: rikse kana PM file...

hIGGI

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yeah, you could trust him

there is a lot of differences atleast in FC which i compared...

i spend first half of 2001 year around RX-7s in Atlanta, GA, USA, i brought one TII with me and now i`m playing with some european cars

we found lot of differences, some not important and some important...

i`m still trying to collect more info about Euro models, so whatever u HAVE and are sure about, post it....if u have any kind of users manual with trustable specs, post it please....

for example in USA there are no turbo convertibles, and i`m buing one in germany right now (hopefully next week ;o)

but on other side, there are no aero mirrors in europe (as far as i know) and i broke one on my TII (((

but about most important stuff on cars, i would say engines are same and boltons and mods as well...most of differencies could be called just cosmetics...

from more important ones, i would name old style mechanic distributor on 86 NA FC which i never saw anywhere else than on 1st gens in USA

btw..let me know whenever u`ll find some european vendors for modding our cars
i might go to greece this summer for vacation tough...

fdlon

Well I'm very happy to see another rotarymaniac from Greece because I was starting to feel very lonely and desparate.By the way the guy is Syros(HKS dealer,poly malakas)who claims that nocompany is as good as HKS.There is no APEXi,Blitz,Greddy,RB for him.do u think buying from US is safe and if its so,who would be capable to program a CPU here.Maybe Technocorse?


(Tha ta poume kai meso PM syntoma)

hIGGI

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would u guys help me to compare us and euro TII's ???
pictures and stuff would help ))

Node

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hmm a regional FC thingy would be nice, anyone feel "up to the task" ;-)
I think the "other" region would be best to work on since we have japan and US well pretty much. Are europe and the japanese ones really that different?
And maybe canada too.

Felix Wankel

I want the rear trim pieces off any FC not from North America. I think it looks cool with no side marker lights.

(soul assassin's car used for reference )

hIGGI

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would u guys help me to compare us and euro TII's ???
pictures and stuff would help ))

hIGGI

iTrader: (7)

would u guys help me to compare us and euro TII's ???
pictures and stuff would help ))

felix > european side markers are ugly compared to us ones ....

Node

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Just find em and order em, shouldn't be "too much" ;-)
or go w/ shaved mouldings

Here is mazda2ndgens car. I really like it.

Felix Wankel

That looks ok, but the first time someone with a low car opens their door into it, you'll be wishing for those moldings back

Erik

i'm pretty sure the series 4 and 5 T2's both from europe and the US are identical except for the mirrors and side markers. maybe not as many of the european ones had sunroofs compared to the US.

but all of the 89-92's had the side skirts like the US, and some probably had the optional front lip.

Node

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yeah, thats why you dont park it in normal parking spots, you tow around a car trailer, then when you need to get out, you unhook the trailer and park the car inside.
like a snail, carry around your home, or like a hobo carrying around a cardboard box.

fdlon

Every T2 here in Greece has sunroof,the front lip standard,trip computer,A/C.I'll definitely try to find a way to send some photos of my baby although it is in totally stock condition(but thats good for the comparison).What about the engine compartment.are there any differences to stop me buying from US?will the SAFC(for example)work in a European model?

hIGGI

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fdlon > if u want it i could sell you my S-AFC and S-ITC, i guess i would not have chance to put my car on dyno...those units would work on european models same like on N/A .... why they shouldn`t ? :o)

Erik

maybe the only engine bay differences would be the smog pump for emissions. from that i understand the jspec ones are smaller...maybe the euro ones are as well. do you guys drive on the right side of the road in greece? then i guess everything else should be the same, but i noticed on the japanese and british engine bays the throttle cable doesn't wrap around the intercooler like the US ones since the driver sits on the opposite side (i think thats why at least )

fdlon

I ve never seen an FC with side markers here and every T2 has the rear wing as standard also.No aero mirrors too,you're right.
Higgy,what kind of skills are required to install the SAFC and fine-tune it,and yes Erik we drive at the right side of the road like the majority of the world(I never understood that English thing)so everything is identical to the US reffering the engine compartment.Thats very good news for tuning isn't it?

hIGGI

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Erik > european Series 4 TII motor is identical to us one from what i looked at it, u could see pictures of my euro parts TII here :

http://nf2000.org/mazda/wrecked/

and here

http://nf2000.org/mazda/project/

(as you cold see, throttle cable goes around intercooler)

differences are in side markers, taillights (wider place for plate, one backing light and one fog light - i like mine US ones more , mirrors and thats it what i remember now....

I don`t see to much trouble with installing S-AFC (http://www.fc3s.org/afc.html), but i don`t have chance to put my car on dyno here....i have older version of S-AFC without LCD display, but both versions should work same....

hIGGI

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greece guys, would u translate this for me ? ;o)

MAZDA RX7 Turbo II, cabrio, μοντ. '92, full extra, έκθεση, τιμή 5,5 εκατ. Τηλ. 7238558

TurboII RudeBoy

ok in the piks of that red carlook at the interior pik that is righ at the steering wheel,go a lil bit down and to the left towards the duct that connects to the door for th a/c, there is a small rectangle about 2 inches tall and an inch wide looks like a black switch what is that?

Erik

you car should have it too......you hit that button and your turbo transforms into a T-78!

hehe......but for real....both of my cars have that slot but there's a black piece of padding in it.

HOZZMANRX7

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Started a separate thread, but thought I'd take a shot in this one since it seems the right ground to ask from.......:

I need not only a JSpec type "T2" Automatic tranny, but the tranny computer as well for a 89-91 Rex.

Located tranny's from a JSpec importer, but the computers never come with from Japan. The NA Computer doesn't work as the shift points are different for the power and torque of a T2 engine.

Wondering if a tranny computer from a 3rd Gen would even talk to a 2nd Gen Auto Tranny or shift properly.

Thoughts.... suggestions?????

hIGGI

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some kind of control for air flow inside car....tough
not sure what exactly it does, but for sure it has something to do with heating/cooling

Felix Wankel

Probably a fresh air vent like the FB's have.

The Ace

OK, I'll try to reply as best as I can to all your questions:

1) All TIIs in Greece (and Europe I think) are almost identical to those from Japan (minus the right-hand side steering wheel ). All have PS, AC, trip computer, sunroof, electric windows/mirrors/locks, front lip, rear wing, side skirts, 16 inch multi-spoke rims, LSD, adjustable beams, leather-like (or leather, cannt decide ) interior, and a turbo Thats what I can remember...

2) There are a lot of differences with your US cars. Inside engine bay mainly. The fuel pump jumper is on the other side. The fuel pump relay underneath the airbox is different. The alt and the wires are placed differently. The various relays for lights are placed elsewhere. Also, side markers are different (in size, shape and location). etc etc.....

3) It says "MAZDA RX7 TII, cabrio , '92, full extra means all that I have mentioned above, dealership, 5,5mil drc (=15K $), and phone number"

I'm posting a picture of a friend's TII. This is dark blue, mine is the same in black. All TIIs here are the same (well, stock ones )

Anyone else wants to know anything about the EUR TIIs, just PM me...