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TurboII engines - S5 or S4 for standalone?

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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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TurboII engines - S5 or S4 for standalone?

Which would be best for running a standalone? Help me decide:

S5:
Lighter Rotors
Higher Compression (good & bad)
Electric OMP - Need something to control me
Better stock turbo

S4:
Heavier rotors
Lower compression (good & bad)
Mechanical OMP - no standalone intervention required
Not-so-great stock turbo

What else am I missing? The car is PROBABLY going to keep the stock turbo (and maybe stock intercooler, not sure) on it until I upgrade the entire engine to a 20B (I'm getting a standalone that can control a 20B, and upgrading the rest of the car appropriately).

As it sits right now the car is an S4, if that helps any.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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S4 block/omp, everything else S5.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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any reasoning behind that? By block you mean engine internals also I guess
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Safety of lower compression. Safety of OMP. Everything else S5, ie manifolds, turbo, what nots.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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ok, one opinion noted, sounds like it would just be easier in my case to just get an S4 J-spec
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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I have an S5 block I like the higher compression down low.

I don't run super high boost (15 psi max) so I'm not too worried about the safety provided by the lower comp S4 rotors.

Plus, we have 94 octane gas, and I premix so no OMP.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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I would go with a S4 front cover on a S5 engine. The S5 housings are stronger I believe. And Ihave read in quite a few places that the S5 rotor housings have better plating than the S4 rotor housings had.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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its a little easier to get the injector plus for an s4, but other than that it doesnt matter
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Old May 7, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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S5 bock.

If your probably using stock turbo/ic there is no need for lower compression to keep you safe.

you can premix and not worry about it or just swap a mechanical on with the frong cover.

Plus the better turbo (but can beswapped either way with front cover)
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Old May 7, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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S5 block is far superior to the S4. Infact, the S5 is a lot closer to the S6 core than it is to an S4. Upgraded internals (ie: stationary gears), better porting.

I agree with Sesshoumaru, if keeping the stock turbo/ic, then you won't be pushing lots of CFM with big boost levels, so the higher compression rotors are actually BETTER for you.

I can't think of 1 reason why the S4 would have advantage in this case.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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S5 block, S4 rotors, and if you "have" to still have the oil injectors run the S4 front cover. Otherwise keep the S5 one with a block off plate and run premix .

- Dana "thats what I got"
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Josepi
Safety of lower compression.
Unless you're aiming for really high numbers, there's absolutely no reason to use low-comp rotors for "safety". Higher compression makes an engine torquier and more flexible, and overall perform better. If a 0.5 difference in compression makes a difference in engine safety, you need a better tuner.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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you know another thing I wasn't even thinking about until recently, is the S5's are on average 2-3 years newer as well.
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