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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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TURBO II and N/A HOODS INTERESTED?

my buddy from www.qworkzmc.com is thinking of producing some hoods for the FC market. I spoke to him to see if he was interested in producing some parts for the FC 's (since i too am an owner) and he was willing as long as he saw a demand. So, as an introductory offer he wanted to get a feel for who would be interested in carbon fiber or fiberglass goods OEM style for turbo and non applications. His products are all made in USA and manufactured here test fitted for fitment and quality unlike the cheap knock offs produced overseas.

here are some links to see his work

http://www.qworkzmc.com/clk.htm

a rough estimate would be around:

$600 carbon fiber
$500 fiberglass

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Well FC3S.org already makes TII hoods in CF and fiberglass.
They used to make n/a hoods but not anymore
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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i won't be buying any kind of hood unless it's a FUNCTIONAL hood... esp. for that kind of money.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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give me feedback and i'll definately see what he can do...doesn't have to be OEM style either...just let me know...if enough people are willing to go in on a group buy, prices will differ of course...TIA! nothing is set in stone just trying to make things available to the community since it seems like not enough companies cater to FC's!
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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gsince it seems like not enough companies cater to FC's!
Because no one buys anything. This will probably be the 20th "I'm gonna make a CF hood!" post in the last year. Nothing ever comes of it.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Because no one buys anything. This will probably be the 20th "I'm gonna make a CF hood!" post in the last year. Nothing ever comes of it.
well itll be the last if the owners of this site really wants a hood. visit the site and see what it is my company can actually produce.

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Those price tags are a bit high. Most people on this forum either don't have the money or don't care. Thats why nothing ever gets done for our cars. For some reason it is our plague that FC owners are always down on money. Its truely sad but you can't change reality. I believe that the CF hoods already made are lower than that price. There is also greater than average "anti-rice" feeling in this community than most imports which means that you should probably look at true functional parts and not just ugly looking body kits.


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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Those price tags are a bit high. Most people on this forum either don't have the money or don't care. Thats why nothing ever gets done for our cars. For some reason it is our plague that FC owners are always down on money. Its truely sad but you can't change reality. I believe that the CF hoods already made are lower than that price. There is also greater than average "anti-rice" feeling in this community than most imports which means that you should probably look at true functional parts and not just ugly looking body kits.


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FC3S.org TII cf hood is 649 before shipping costs, so his tag is cheaper already.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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you know.. i say this to all my customers, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

my company shows all of our work and would love to go head to head with any company to show our quality. the price posted is a gb price only.

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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maybe if everyone wasn't so pessimisstic and would post up what they want rather than shoot down new prosepective companies something will happen. function over form is what every user should want and what every performance company should strive for. if you can't offer suggestions or any help aside from general statements then why bother?

i see it as a new company trying to cater to the rx7 community but the community is lashing out before anything even goes through. it's obvious price is a major issue so of course that all depends on a manufacturing perspective on the amount of interest to produce a new product from scratch. this is why i started the thread - if nobody is interested then it just falls through. i'm trying to get my buddy's company on the map in the community to help w/ OEM style products along w/ things everyone here looks for but can't find at a competitive yet reasonable price.

so i ask if you do have criticism, please back it up w/ suggestions to let me and my buddy know what you guys are looking for - be it price or design or specific parts. Thanks again!
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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maybe if everyone wasn't so pessimisstic and would post up what they want rather than shoot down new prosepective companies something will happen. function over form is what every user should want and what every performance company should strive for. if you can't offer suggestions or any help aside from general statements then why bother?

i see it as a new company trying to cater to the rx7 community but the community is lashing out before anything even goes through. it's obvious price is a major issue so of course that all depends on a manufacturing perspective on the amount of interest to produce a new product from scratch. this is why i started the thread - if nobody is interested then it just falls through. i'm trying to get my buddy's company on the map in the community to help w/ OEM style products along w/ things everyone here looks for but can't find at a competitive yet reasonable price.

so i ask if you do have criticism, please back it up w/ suggestions to let me and my buddy know what you guys are looking for - be it price or design or specific parts. Thanks again!
I'm not trying to bad mouth you or your friends company in any way, but the problem is there already is a company, fc3s.org, that is making OEM style CF products. They have the radio surround, cf TII hood, cf TII hoodscoop, TII sideskirts, dual gauge cf dash cover, and probably more I'm forgetting. In fact, they have also said they will be making molded cf dual gauge pods for the a-pillar, doors, fenders, everything. The problem you are facing is that someone else is already doing these things at competitive prices and much praise from everyone that has bought from them. They have a deal worked out with fiber images to do lots of their work for them.

Again, I'm not trying to bad mouth you or your friend, just giving you input. It's going to be harder than you think to come in and do this since another company is already making all these things and plans for more.

As far as input, the one thing I don't see is the n/a style hood in cf or fiberglass. That is no longer being made, unfortunately. However, I am not in a financial place right now to spend 600 dollars on a hood.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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I'm not trying to bad mouth you or your friends company in any way, but the problem is there already is a company, fc3s.org, that is making OEM style CF products. They have the radio surround, cf TII hood, cf TII hoodscoop, TII sideskirts, dual gauge cf dash cover, and probably more I'm forgetting. In fact, they have also said they will be making molded cf dual gauge pods for the a-pillar, doors, fenders, everything. The problem you are facing is that someone else is already doing these things at competitive prices and much praise from everyone that has bought from them. They have a deal worked out with fiber images to do lots of their work for them.

Again, I'm not trying to bad mouth you or your friend, just giving you input. It's going to be harder than you think to come in and do this since another company is already making all these things and plans for more.

As far as input, the one thing I don't see is the n/a style hood in cf or fiberglass. That is no longer being made, unfortunately. However, I am not in a financial place right now to spend 600 dollars on a hood.
I don’t see it as a problem.. That’s like saying if Honda started making rotary engines they would have a problem marketing them because someone else already does it.

I can sell the hoods for $499 or even $399 if I was selling them in bulk meaning a gb would bring the cost down dramatically. Notice he said rough estimate!


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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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I don’t see it as a problem.. That’s like saying if Honda started making rotary engines they would have a problem marketing them because someone else already does it.

I can sell the hoods for $499 or even $399 if I was selling them in bulk meaning a gb would bring the cost down dramatically. Notice he said rough estimate!
Ok, then more power to you and good luck.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Ok, then more power to you and good luck.
thanks!


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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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well if they got to 399 i would definitely go in...how many people would that take?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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I'd jump in on that ^
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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id be down for it also. a hood i dont know if i need but a lip or some sort i could do with.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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i would go 200 for fiberglass, why spend 500 when i can get a alum hood for 100? If the hoods looked cool and had some style to um probably 350 =D
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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i wouldn't if it was just a "CF" hood OR fiberglass... not a good money:function:weight ratio... that is if it's only a stock style hood. just no point. i can get an aluminum hood, slap it on, and be happy as hell with it for ~$100. and how much would it weigh compared to CF? not a whole lot of difference.

with that said, i wanna see you do great with this... i really do! but most of us are POOR!

sorry, i'm just giving my own $.02 (that is, if i can even afford that!)

edit- Mr Fuzzy said it before i did....

plus i'm gonna have to pay for shipping. last time i checked, shipping companies rape you as much as insurance these days
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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you know.. i say this to all my customers, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

my company shows all of our work and would love to go head to head with any company to show our quality. the price posted is a gb price only.
What is the quantity of people needed for your group buy for $600? How about for $399? Do you have any pictures or videos of your other carbon fiber parts, especially hoods? What does your manufacturing process consist of in regards to carbon fiber laying?

I agree with the term that you get what you pay for. It is hard to product good CF products for $5 each, therefore some people skoff at some of the higher prices that come with quality CF parts. I would like to see someone's hood stand up against a Fiber Images hood. That would be impressive to me at least. VIS is another company doing CF, but I don't personally believe that they hold a torch to the FI product line. That is why I went with them over any other cf maker.

As far as I am concerned, the more makers of parts, the better it is for the end user. Competition is what makes this country great IMHO.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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I'd like a 2nd gen hood in fiberglass with a scoop on it similar to this one http://www.aeroglass.com/scoops/8893mustang.php. Check my sig and it's obvious why I need a scoop. I don't know if anyone else is interested in that or not, but it's the only hood I would buy. Other than that, I am just getting the scoop and having it mounted and glassed in myself.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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I want a new hood but 649 is too much for me...like someone said, we are poor. I can get a TII Aluminum hood for 200so it would have to be close to at most 400 for me to actually consider it.......Good luck and keep us posted.....if you can get quality parts for a low price you will be in great business, but I assume that it is not that easy otherwise FC3S.org would not charge an arm and a leg for a hood that does not weight THAT much less than a stock hood.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Yea price is the problem with FCs, I payed $3600 for my TII so its tuff for me to warrent spending $700 on a CF hood. Now if it was in the neighborhood of $400 I would be all over it. I personaly I dont even care if it was CF, because it will get painted any ways. I would settle for fiberglass hood in a reverse vent style that would work good for running a front mount. Light, Cheep, Functional! those are key! Here is a pic of a reverse vented hood for an FC.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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How about one with the stock IC scoop but also has a vent on either side of the scoop(RE amemiya style)
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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What is the quantity of people needed for your group buy for $600? How about for $399? Do you have any pictures or videos of your other carbon fiber parts, especially hoods? What does your manufacturing process consist of in regards to carbon fiber laying?

I agree with the term that you get what you pay for. It is hard to product good CF products for $5 each, therefore some people skoff at some of the higher prices that come with quality CF parts. I would like to see someone's hood stand up against a Fiber Images hood. That would be impressive to me at least. VIS is another company doing CF, but I don't personally believe that they hold a torch to the FI product line. That is why I went with them over any other cf maker.

As far as I am concerned, the more makers of parts, the better it is for the end user. Competition is what makes this country great IMHO.
For $600 price tag id need 6-10 buyers, for $399 price tag id need 30 buyers. As of right now what I have on the site is all I have. All pictures on the site have been a gradual process and all shots were taken within the past 30 days. We only want to have our newest projects on the site.

For our carbon fiber process all you need to know is Infusion! We do not pour and use brushes or rollers to lay our resin.



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