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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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turbo 13b and NA 13b

are these the same motors? Are the Turbo and NA blocks exactly the same?
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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no, there are very few common parts
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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The blocks share about 3 parts: the stationary gears and the eccentric shaft.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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The endplates are stronger as well.

How much stronger are they (I'm curious)?
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Dude, why are you going around talking about endplates being stronger/weaker on na/t2? You've posted misinformation twice today that I've seen. The NA endplates are made from the exact same casting (the periphery anyway) as the t2 ones...the dowel pin landings, and the surrounding material on the irons is identical between t2 and NA. Other than intake port design differences, they're the same thing, exactly. ONe is no stronger or weaker than the other. There is a difference in how the 2 can be ported, however. 89+ irons are stronger (mainly the rear, which has a reinforcement by the weak rear dowel landing) than 86-88, but that's it.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
The blocks share about 3 parts: the stationary gears and the eccentric shaft.
Apex seals and springs, side seals and springs, oil-rings and springs, corner seals and springs, coolant o-rings.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Sorry, I was confused somehow with the castings of the engine parts with series, turbo and NA. My apologies.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Ok but could i hook up na headers to a turbo engine? Im guessing no?

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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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You could, but it'd be really slow. The turbo engine has a lower compression ratio than the nonturbos. This is the same reason it isn't a great idea to turbo a nonturbo engine. High compression does well on an NA engine, and lower compression is better for a boosted engine to remain safe. Low CR without the aid of the turbo would be a weak engine.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Ok but could i hook up na headers to a turbo engine? Im guessing no?
not with the turbo on there you couldn't
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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I'm assuming he meant running NA headers instead of a turbo and manifold on a turbo block. No, you cannot connect NA headers to a turbo, if thats what you were asking.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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bah
I just had to be a smart-***!
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