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Old 11-02-05, 11:13 AM
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Unhappy Trying To Fix Hesitation....tps???

Okay i've tried just about every method there is for setting the tps. If i set the tps at 1 volt at idle(hot engine) using the green/red wire i get hesitation with light load and light throttle application.

If i use the ohms method by unplugging the tps connector and set the tps to 1 ohm using the black and green/red wire the hesitation goes away. But when i hook everything back up and check the voltage at the green/red wire it reads at .64 volts. Does this mean i have a bad tps??? Why are these two methods of testing so far off?

I've checked for dead spots before and found none...and i made sure that all of the above testing was done on a fully hot engine... and my motor pulls 19inhg. Doubt if it is a vacuum leak, all vacuum lines have been replaced.
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.... If i use the ohms method by unplugging the tps connector and set the tps to 1 ohm using the black and green/red wire the hesitation goes away. But when i hook everything back up and check the voltage at the green/red wire it reads at .64 volts.....
It should test closer than that, so you may be looking for a weak ground or a weak harness connection - maybe at the ECU.
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where does the black wire at the tps ground at?? or does the ecu ground it??
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The difference of 1kohm and .64volts wouldn't that indicate a high resistance or something wrong in the tps NOT the ecu end???? Anyone??
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hello......
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If you are suffering from hesitation maybe you should try searching the Archive.

At the very top there is a nice little thread about regrounding things. It also says that it might fix hesitation.
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all factory grounds have been cleaned and tightened....
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Oops.
Weak grounds are so common that I jumped on that without looking further.

Resistance ~1K, Volts ~.6 -- The voltage source must be weak, or the TPS resistance is not stable/repeating.
Check the IG1 12v feed to the TPS. If it's good then the TPS has to be about worn out.
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sure thing sureshot....thanks for the answer. I'll check it tonight. thanks
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well i got a break from work and went out to my car to test, this is what i got at the tps:

green\red- 1v

orange-5v

yellow-.89v

red-5v

blue- ground 12v to battery pos

black- ground12v to battery pos

all measurements where taken with engine warm and tps connector connected....but didn't you say there is supposed to be a 12v feed wire to the tps. The only 12v i got was the blue and black wires but only when connected meter to battery pos. Should i be getting 12v somewhere where im not getting it???
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The 12v reading is what you should see at one of the two pins of the TPS check connector. One should show 0 and one should show ~12v. Key on engine fully warmed up.
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Oops - I did it again - The signal voltage supply to the TPS is 5 volts.

So - the TPS seems OK.

Now about the mis-fire. Any more symtoms?
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right....so the supply voltage is good then right??? then all that leaves is a bad tps. remember 1kohm on narrow range = .64v to much of a difference
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missfire?????????? well hesitation i would call it....so would you say i need a new tps then??
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Originally Posted by Chuck
The 12v reading is what you should see at one of the two pins of the TPS check connector. One should show 0 and one should show ~12v. Key on engine fully warmed up.
Does it matter if which side of the TPS check connector shows 12V, & which 0?

(A)(B)
..(C)

^ if I'm looking at the plug like this, with the positive line on the multimeeter in (C.) & the negative on A or B,..
Should I set (A) to 12v & (B) to 0v?..
or (B) to 12v & (A) to 0v.
..or does it make a difference?
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Here is that video of my previous bad TPS mis-fire. link to short video

That TPS had a 0 ohms spot at about 10% throttle.

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what i just checked with all the voltages was checking the wiring and the ecu end right not the tps
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Is the dealer the only one that sells a tps....should i look aftermarket or is that a bad idea???
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i found one at advance auto parts for $138 bucks....thats great compared to 350 that mazda wants. GP Sorenson makes the one at advance. Would this tps work i mean all that is in there is resitor right
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When you are checking and setting TPS voltage at the TPS check connector, it makes no difference whether A-B or A-C shows 12v as long as you adjust the TPS such that the other shows 0. Set it and do a 10-15 minute test drive. Then come back and verify the setting. Then make sure you set the idle speed to 600-800 rpm.
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