True dual system questions
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True dual system questions
just a couple quick questions on real dual setups:
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
2-will putting the factory 02 sensor in one pipe in the header make readings good enough for the 02 sensor?
3- what dia. of pipe is used for the header section (i think 1 7/8")
thanks in advance
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
2-will putting the factory 02 sensor in one pipe in the header make readings good enough for the 02 sensor?
3- what dia. of pipe is used for the header section (i think 1 7/8")
thanks in advance
1. i'd do neither if you want true dual. you'd have to know how to tune exhausts. but if you chose either of the 2, i'd go with X.
2.yes
3.On my setup it's 2.5in all the way back from the engine. header included.
Matt
2.yes
3.On my setup it's 2.5in all the way back from the engine. header included.
Matt
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thanks marlaman, i like sound of 2.5" the bigger the better, especially when i consider my factory type setup uses a single 2.5" section from the manifold to the Y
Originally Posted by Beny
i believe that the O2 sensor would have to go in the collector part of the pipe, yes?
Originally Posted by classicauto
just a couple quick questions on real dual setups:
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
2-will putting the factory 02 sensor in one pipe in the header make readings good enough for the 02 sensor?
3- what dia. of pipe is used for the header section (i think 1 7/8")
thanks in advance
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
2-will putting the factory 02 sensor in one pipe in the header make readings good enough for the 02 sensor?
3- what dia. of pipe is used for the header section (i think 1 7/8")
thanks in advance
True dual means the 2 banks on a V configuration engine's exhaust (or in this case 2 rotors) never collect or meet
?
I think the one i have from mazdatrix.com is a twin 2-2.5" front to back
Frank
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I like the mazdatrix setup. But I'm also intrigued by the RB.
But to answer the questions.
1. No X or H, either Y or true seperate duals from header back.
2. Yes
3. 2.5" Bigger the better.
But I have a question of my own. Is there such a thing as too big on a 7? In my opinion the rotary responds better and better the bigger the piping.
Rabbit
But to answer the questions.
1. No X or H, either Y or true seperate duals from header back.
2. Yes
3. 2.5" Bigger the better.
But I have a question of my own. Is there such a thing as too big on a 7? In my opinion the rotary responds better and better the bigger the piping.
Rabbit
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Originally Posted by 3rdWrldRcr
3. 2.5" Bigger the better.
Rabbit
Rabbit

Originally Posted by 3rdWrldRcr
But I have a question of my own. Is there such a thing as too big on a 7? In my opinion the rotary responds better and better the bigger the piping.
Rabbit
Rabbit

if the exhaust is too restricive then that momentum/scavenging effect is reached at too low RPM's or not reached at all and cause backpressure at higher RPM's
If the exhaust is too large then the exhaust gases will not be able to get sufficient momentum and also cause another problem when the next pulse comes out since it's gonna hit air that's just stanting still and have to move that out of it's way
also exhaust and intake have to almost be tuned together.. but i guess that's another story.. BUT!, too large of an exhaust will not be beneficial to a stock intake manifold
Originally Posted by marlaman
1. i'd do neither if you want true dual. you'd have to know how to tune exhausts. but if you chose either of the 2, i'd go with X.
Matt
Matt

ya you can have too big of pipes on any car...
Originally Posted by 3rdWrldRcr
Will 3.15" true duals be fine on a port+polished intake manifold?
maybe if you had a P-Port but i still think a 2.5 dual would be suffiecient
Frank
Originally Posted by classicauto
just a couple quick questions on real dual setups:
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
1-should i use a H or X pipe section?
2-will putting the factory 02 sensor in one pipe in the header make readings good enough for the 02 sensor?
3- what dia. of pipe is used for the header section (i think 1 7/8")
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
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