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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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TONS of smoke pours out the exhaust when I let off the gas??? :(

Major problem. I don't want to get pulled over for a gross polluter or endangering other motorists. My 87 Turbo II pours out a TON of smoke, sometimes it's brown, when I coast to a stop or let off the gas. It's horrible. What could it be? It just started doing this and I have no idea what to do.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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this happened to me just recently, i did the rats nest removal and took off the PCV valve and i did not have a oil catch can for the excess oil and pressure to vent into from the block to the oil filler neck, and it was creating alot of pressure in the crake case and making my car smoke like crazy at idle too.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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This exact same thing happened to me. It turned out to be an oil seal in the turbo and eventually became a VERY big problem.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rotaryracer1
this happened to me just recently, i did the rats nest removal and took off the PCV valve and i did not have a oil catch can for the excess oil and pressure to vent into from the block to the oil filler neck, and it was creating alot of pressure in the crake case and making my car smoke like crazy at idle too.
So what did you do to fix it? I've got the same basic problem. Before I decide its a bad oil control ring I'm going to try other fixes.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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PCV problems that cause buildup of pressure in the "crankcase" can kill your turbo bearings and seals in short order, as the oil drain line from the turbo is gravity fed. If you have pressure in there it can prevent proper drainage. Get a catch can, you won't be sorry. If you take the thing to race track events, I highly recommend the RB oil pan baffle as well. Before I got it I would find oil all over the driver's side of my engine compartment after a hard run at VIR (mostly right turns) after getting it and a catch bottle, it's bone dry in there.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryracer1
this happened to me just recently, i did the rats nest removal and took off the PCV valve and i did not have a oil catch can for the excess oil and pressure to vent into from the block to the oil filler neck, and it was creating alot of pressure in the crake case and making my car smoke like crazy at idle too.

Where's the PVC valve?
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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If it doesnt do it under boost, but starts after you coast to a stop, it really sounds like the turbine seal is on its way out. Ive seen one go firsthand and the symptoms were heavy smoke on decel, but no real smoke while cruising or boosting.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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And I forgot to mention, there is no real fix other than rebuilding the turbo.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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If it doesnt do it under boost, but starts after you coast to a stop, it really sounds like the turbine seal is on its way out. Ive seen one go firsthand and the symptoms were heavy smoke on decel, but no real smoke while cruising or boosting.

It smokes under boost
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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How bout' Stop Leak in the radiator to fix those crappy seals?
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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How bout' Stop Leak in the radiator to fix those crappy seals?
I've used that in the radiator for a blown coolant seal. It actually worked pretty good.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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I've used that in the radiator for a blown coolant seal. It actually worked pretty good.
I tried it and my radiator blew up while I was on the freeway. Lucky for me I was right by my house.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chics dig the BOV
How bout' Stop Leak in the radiator to fix those crappy seals?
That is not the correct fix for oil blow-by or anything for that matter.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Project84- Were you blowing out white smoke too?

wan: What, in the Stop Leak, could have caused that?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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Project84- Were you blowing out white smoke too?
My car had a blown coolant seal when I bought it. It was burning coolant and wouldn't start unless you pulled the EFI fuse and cranked the engine to flush the coolant out of the combustion area. The used car dealer didn't know what to do with a rotary, and they didn't recognize that someone replaced the pressure cap assembly with one that didn't have an overflow tube. (See picture) There wasn't a pressure cap on the radiator, so the coolant had no where to go when it got hot. It ended up blowing a coolant seal. I got some stop leak and it clotted up the area where the seal was leaking. It worked pretty good because I could let the car sit over night and it would start without having to pull the fuse and blow the coolant out. I did rebuild the engine, and when I took it apart, I could see that it did collect and hold together in the gap. Some people say it don't work, some say it does. This is just my testimony.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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Here is the picture. My car had the pressure cap on the bottom left (item K), and there was no where in the system to release the coolant into the overflow bottle.

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 04:58 AM
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Cool! I'll check into that asap tommorrow. Also, tonight my car boosted to like 18psi, when I had the manlal boost controlled set @ 10psi. It was WAY fast. But can't be good. Also, I hope this helps, my car burns oil and goes through antifreeze like madd.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I was jsut thinking. I changed the oil a few weeks ago and it still looks golden. Not brown or even the least bit blackened. Is that a sign of a good rebuild and not foreign crap in my oil (antifreeze)?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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i get some smoke and i'm leaning towards the turbo needing a rebuild..........what is the worst case scenario if i wait too long?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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18PSI? That will toast your turbine seals in short order. The turbo is also way outside its efficiency range at that point, so it's making lots of hot air, which isn't particularly good for the engine.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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all in all you need a oil catch tank! or a rebuit turbo.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chics dig the BOV
I was jsut thinking. I changed the oil a few weeks ago and it still looks golden. Not brown or even the least bit blackened. Is that a sign of a good rebuild and not foreign crap in my oil (antifreeze)?
Antifreeze in the oil will form a milky white foam (oil and water don't mix...)
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Cool. Then there's no antifreeze in my oil. I'm heading to Rotary Power this week. I hope they say it needs a turbo rebuild at the most.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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wan: What, in the Stop Leak, could have caused that?
It looked like it clogged the radiator forcing it to crack. Where in Pomona are you? I live by Phillips Ranch.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wan
It looked like it clogged the radiator forcing it to crack. Where in Pomona are you? I live by Phillips Ranch.
I live at Garey and Foothill.
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