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tokicos vs. kybs for my fcs4?

Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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AZ tokicos vs. kybs for my fcs4?

im no expert and i got them used and right now the kyb agx's are on. but i have an extra pair of tokico blues for the front. anybody know how the tokicos would do instead of the kybs? i like the kybs but im curious how the tokicos would do. any info or advice?? i got the green tien springs if that matters any
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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either is fine. Those struts are at the low end of the performance spectrum so you can throw whichever you want on.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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KYB'S are great!! not too stiff and not to soft
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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If you decide to offload either pair at a good price, PM me.
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I thought the Tokico blues were just about the same thing as stock. And for what it's worth, I run the KYB AGX on mine.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fc623
im no expert and i got them used and right now the kyb agx's are on. but i have an extra pair of tokico blues for the front. anybody know how the tokicos would do instead of the kybs? i like the kybs but im curious how the tokicos would do. any info or advice?? i got the green tien springs if that matters any
KYB AGX > Tokico Blues

The AGX are adjustable and are a large step up from the Blues. You would go backward to install the Blues,
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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AGX's don't really adjust except at low speed rebound, they're practically one setting for high impacts, but you can change their settings to tune drivability.

I run non-adjustable Bilsteins, but even they have a better force curve than the AGX's.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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agx's ftw! well at least on a low budget. lol
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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you can't compare blues vs agx; one is adjustable and one isn't

tokico blues>kyb gr2's (from the reviews i read when i was in the market); many manufacturers use tokico as oem shocks

tokico illuminas and kyb agx's are both great adjustables, i think the agx's have more settings though

i run tokico blues w/ tanabes gf210 springs. one thing about tokico is that their shocks are lifetime. that might be so with kyb but you need to look it up to make sure
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Originally Posted by Turbo II
I thought the Tokico blues were just about the same thing as stock. And for what it's worth, I run the KYB AGX on mine.
I wish. stock new shocks are more like the KYB GR2. The blues are stiffer.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by brandonn
you can't compare blues vs agx; one is adjustable and one isn't

tokico blues>kyb gr2's (from the reviews i read when i was in the market); many manufacturers use tokico as oem shocks

tokico illuminas and kyb agx's are both great adjustables, i think the agx's have more settings though

i run tokico blues w/ tanabes gf210 springs. one thing about tokico is that their shocks are lifetime. that might be so with kyb but you need to look it up to make sure
kyb's are life time for sure.

AGX's are advertised as adjustable, but as you can see on the shock dyno, they're really not. That's why I say there's no real big difference between then and the Blues. They really only adjust low speed rebound, which affects your ride, so you think the adjustment is doing something. For better information, you can always go to this [url=http://www.farnorthracing.com]site[/img] and look in the tech sections -> Autocross to Win secrets or something or other.

KYB AGX:



Illuminas are slightly better.



Koni's are by far, the best of the bunch. Note that the min and max settings are not where you want to be in. I usually set mine at 65% firm, so slightly more than the 1.5 curve. I should probably lower them to 20%



And finally, here are the Bilstein's that I use. They're about the same as the Koni's on 1/2 turn firm (Out of 2.5 turns, so 20% firm)

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