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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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to4b 60-1 turbo-a little disappointed

I just got this t04b bb turbo thinking it was going to be a monster turbo, but when I compared it to the stock turbo II turbo I was a little shocked. not much bigger that stock. only the cold side is slightly bigger

any of you guys have to4bs??
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Here is my 60-1 on my car from turbonetics, sorry I dont have any pics of just the turbo itself at the moment, But its quite a bit larger then my old stocker
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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man i like that cold side housing with the big turbonetics imprint on it..

what wastegate are you using with that turbo???
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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damn... that is a little small.... doesnt look much bigger at all.... glad i went t70
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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turbosmart 38mm gate, plenty big for what I need
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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how about your manifold ,i have been trying to find a good manifold
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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TO4B is small, really only a 350-375whp turbo.
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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looks like its a bit bigger
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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well i guess thats ok for now considering its on a stock tII engine
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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his turbo does look small, so those numbers sound right. The manifold I have is made by 1revvin7 and is ceramic coated inside and out. You can get it at turblown.net
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Your 60-1 comes with a T04B compressor cover - 3" inlet.
Some of the 60-1's come with a TS04 compressor cover - 4" inlet.
Do you have a 60-1 "Hi-Fi"?

Your 60-1 also comes with an on-center turbine housing.
This might not fit, depending on the turbo exhaust manifold.
The on-center also is not as efficient as a tangential.


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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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Here is a pic of the turbonetics 60-1 compared to a hybrid S5 T04

The rest of the pics of the project are at this link : http://www.banzairacing.net/fehsenfeld_smp.htm
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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put it on the car and im sure the difference will be considerable (in performance terms)
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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thats a good looking car banzai
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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i am sure its gonna make more power than stock.

does any of you know whats the better wategate to match this turbo??
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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any one
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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38 to 40mm will be fine I'm sure. Also listen to reted about the oncenter housing. If you are using a cast hks or ebay knock off it will not fit until you get a tangential housing.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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what manifold will this housing fit?
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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what do you mean by tangential.

how can you tell it wont fit a t4 flange??
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mobeoner
what do you mean by tangential.

how can you tell it wont fit a t4 flange??
I need to take a picture of this for people. I see so many people running that turbine housing, and they don't know that it will make a considerable negative impact on " turbo lag"

That turbo will make a LOT more than the stock turbo...
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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I need to take a picture of this for people. I see so many people running that turbine housing, and they don't know that it will make a considerable negative impact on " turbo lag"

That turbo will make a LOT more than the stock turbo...
i dont understand what you said!....so my turbo housing it good or bad??
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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tangential housing fitment.



oncenter housing fitment.



as you can tell the tangential housing works great however the oncenter just doesn't fit (turbine side hits the frame rail). you can get a hammer and dent the thing or cut it but I just think thats ghetto. Also the oncenter housing is very restrictive compared to the tangential housing.

edit: also if you deside to stay with the 4bolt flanged oncenter housing please note that the 4bolt pattern is differant than the tange 4 bolt pattern so you have to specify to whoever you get the downpipe flange from that you need one for an oncenter housing.

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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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hoooo **** i see what you mean!!!!..damn now i have to spend another $300 for a tang housing?? **** man this **** is getting too expensive...

my exhaust housing is .81 A/R can i upgrade to a bigger like housing with out changing the turbine wheel??

or should i keep .81 just upgrade it to a div-tang
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Well.. i had something similar,(or maybe i am not understanding proper) but had to use a spacer (i'll get a pic to show ya). And remember the outlet hole from the compressor is bigger then the stocker. Remember 10PSI Thru a straw IS NOT EQUAL to 10PSI thru a papertowel roll. Both are 10PSI yes, but the volume of air being pushed is quite different, almost exponentially so keep that inmind.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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where did you get that spacer?
will that work with my turbo?

i have spend about $6,000 on parts and i realy can`t aford to go buying more i need quick solutions to what i have
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