the car: 90 n/a vert auto
i need new tires and i wanted to know what kind you guys r running, i currently have some Sumitomo HTRZ II 215/45zR17 87w (<--- whatever that # means?) they get good traction both dry and wet conditions, but i was told they don't last long (don't know when they were put on, came with car)

i am looking for some tires with the same performance but that last longer (unless these last long and i was misinformed) and at about the same price ($105 each) i know this should be in the "Suspension/Wheels/Tires/Brakes " form but i need some soon (like in the next week) and no one hardly ever goes in that form.


thanks shawn

 

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also most of the driving is at 70+ mph (on curvy and bump roads)if this helps any


shawn

 

Yokohama AVS Intermediate's a really good tire and they're selling really cheap on tirerack right now but the tread wears around 150 I believe.

 

"tread wears around 150 I believe"

what does that mean? (i don't know jacksh*t about tires)

 

I'm running the Yokohama AVS dBs on mine. Pretty good tire. Treadwear is a 320 I believe. That's a numebr to represent how long it will last. A 320 will last a good bit longer than a 150. However, lower treadwear normally means a softer, grippier tire. Research a little on tirerack.com and you'll probably come across something that seems good there. Chances are, if the tirerack says it'll do what you want it to do, you won't be too disappointed by it. They seem to be pretty good there.

 

AVS Intermediates are good tires. My friend has them on his Miata. We drive it through a lot of backroads and theyre VERY grippy.

HOWEVER!

In my experience theyre only good for about 6-7 months and once they lose that tread, theyre VERY VERY bad.

 

Yea 150 tread wear life is about 12,000 miles max.

 

Yea....can someone recommend me something good for my auto vert too? My stock tires are 205/60 V15. I want something thats has a Z rating and will fit my stock vert BBS rims.

 

If you want some really awesome tires, get some Falken Azenis (sp?) Im not sure how theyre going to handle in the snow, but I have another friend with a Miata who has those on all four corners. After drving both of their cars numerous times, I can say that the Falkens > AVS's by a fair amount. Cant really comment on treadwear because he hasnt had them for that long yet

 

i live in florida and so i need a good rain tire and i want a good sticky dry tire too. I am going with Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position. If they are good enough for Michael Schumacher they are good anough for me LOL. They are about $130 each so they ain't cheap. My car is not a daily driver so i don't put alot of miles on it, so tire mileage is not that inportant to me.

Tire Rack has a real good web site to learn about and research tires.

 

Yeah I agree with the Falkens (but I like the Zeix 502 or 512 series, simular grip to the Azenis, but better break away, and feedback and considerably better life) for a bargin priced street/non race tire that handles decent (very simular to the Sumitomo). Both have about a 300 wear rating and A for temp and traction as well as are all season.

I have tried the Yokohama AVS dBs but haven't been happy with the dry traction.

But if price and wear doesn't matter the Pirelli P-asmetrical is by far the best choice on our cars for a upper performance wear out in 6 months street tire.

 

BTW: if you are using the stock mazda BBS rim, I feel the 225/50-15 is the best choice for a tire size.

 

Falken Azenis is mad sticky, does great in the rain, and lasts for a long time. I have them on my vert and they work well. Also my friend has them on his 240 and he has gone through 4 autocrosses and 9000 miles and still has decent amount of tread.

 

Shawn,

Sounds like a nice stock n/a auto cruiser.

My 87 Turbo II is on its third set of Pirelli P7000s. I used to run Michelins on other cars. The Pirellis are as good if not better than Michelin and way cheaper. They are totally predictable and never break erractically. I drove the car in the same areas of Los Angeles for years, and I can honestly say that as I did handling mods the tires just seemed to get better and better even as I was pushing the car harder and harder into turns and freeway offramps I was familiar with. That was my basis for comparison: being able to drive faster and in more control on turns I knew.

I run 215/45ZR-17s in front on 17x8 OZ Volcano wheels. You won't be able to run that stock. I have custom adjustable coilovers, H&R billet spacers, longer race studs, and rolled fenders up front. The rears are 235/40ZR-17s on the same wheels. I have my eye on those wide front fenders from Mariah, which would allow me to run the same tires all round. That's maybe the next and final step on my FC to gain footprint.

By the way, I did all the suspension mods before buying the wheels and then bought the biggest P7000s that would fit. I also installed SmarTire, which reads tire air pressure on the fly. Tire Rack still sells it.

Falken, Yokohama, I can't testify to these tires. I'm sure the Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position tires are good, or Gordon Monsen wouldn't be using them. But maybe they are too pricey for you. I would say don't go cheap on tires, dude. If you're 70+ in the twistys, why aren't running the best? Skimp on the stereo, not the tires!

Your n/a vert auto isn't the fastest 7, but you could make it faster in the twistys. Good tires are important for that. If you want to keep the car looking stock, then go for the handling mods. No one will know you have front/rear strut tower braces, heavier sway bars, shocks, camber and toe-in links. Get adjustable coilovers, relocate a sealed gel battery behind the passenger seat, and corner balance the car. You'll have the fastest cornering bone stock (looking) n/a vert snail in Louisiana! Just don't forget to upgrade your brake pads.

Well, maybe that was more info than you wanted. Anyway, get some good tires, not the cheaps.

Best of luck,

Nat

 

i had pirelli p7000 super sports on my 'roc, didnt grip well at all, threw on some 100/tire yoko avs intermediate...hooked very well, in the rain too ;-)

that car took off like a bat out of hell with minimal spinning, 2.0....the p7000's got me a 2.2 60', the yokos a 1.9 60'...

 

lol that was funnie ( i wish it look stock the idiot before riced it out, TII hood, big *** wing, and rims(i like the rims though )
but i thought i would need more weight in the front (r lighten the back) i thought the verts were heavier in the back than in the front......... (correct me if i am wrong)

also thanks for all the help guys , anyway, money is getting tighter and tighter as we speak giving the engine another tune up, paying bills,and the tires r not getting any better ( i am taking it a little easier on them though ) i have been looking at these what do u think ?? Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 (wr), Sumitomo HTR Z II (zr)(these i already have) , Yokohama AVS ES100 (wr),
am i gonna be waisting my money r are they good ? (i will check out the one yall have suggested tonight )


well off to tireandrack.com

later
shawn

edit: i have out ran a couple of cars on the twisties to with these tires, also after this is a new top and then springs ( can't have my ride leaking now can i ? )

 

ok anyone know about

Pirelli
P6000
Size:215/45-17
Load Rating XL
WR Speed Rated
r these good there r on sale for $105

 

Only driven on those tires once...And they were dryrotted. I guess that doesnt help you much though

Im a huge supporter of Yokohama/Advan. If you dont care about treadwear ( I didnt see if you did or not ), get some Advan A032R's

 

well it finaly happened today....... got a blow out

no more waiting need tires ordered today

 

I run Yokohama AVS dB 225/60/15 on my stock 'vert rims. Grippy, quiet, good wet performance. Not as good dry as the AVS intermediate, but MUCH better wet, last twice as long, and better in the dry than most "performance" tires. They BARELY clear, a lot of 225/60/15 tires will NOT work.

Brad

 

Hey brad,

Any reason that you wanted to use the 60 series tire rather than a 50 series?

 

I use Michelins Pilot tires. They are quiet on the highway and wear well and have good grip. Also, they are easy to find and about 100.00 each.

 

hey, about the falcon azenis... how much do they run?

 

If you want a really grippy tire get khumo victoracers... usually track use only

 

ok how good is the spare tire for these cars? do u think it can hold up for a week with me driving about 120 miles a day? i put it on (rear passenger side)inflated it to 60 psi. the tire looks like its in fair to new condition (still has the little bumpy things on it) what should i watch out for? i never driven with the spare tire before, and my other tires won't be here till sat or mon.