2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Thoughs on single exhaust..?

Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:06 PM
  #26  
1987RX7guy's Avatar
Eat Rice Don't Drive it.
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,752
Likes: 1
From: Laredo, Tx
Originally posted by Cory Simpson
A chain is only as strong as it weekest link.

Meaning if you are running the stock Y pipe, with rice cannon mufflers, it's going to be pretty much the same.





Duals are louder, there isn't the exhaust sound waves from both ports to cancel each other out.

If a collected exhaust with two mufflers is loud enough to hurt my ears while my friend is cruising next to me and I can't hear my own exhaust I don't think the True Duals are louder. I don't give a **** what you all say about canceling pulses and **** I am talking about what my ears are listening to. My duals don't even register compared to a collected one and a Single muffler will be twice as loud as a collected with dual mufflers.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 11:08 PM
  #27  
Jaared's Avatar
Ahhhhhhhh hhh....
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: www.wRongPeople.com
so the stock mufflers have 2" inlets?

and if i wanted to order ebay rice mufflers i need 2" and make sure its not glass packed right?

anyone feel like point a set out for me... not cuz im lazy, more like i cant stand all the rice crap that show up when you type something like "muffler" in ebay's search thing.

jaared
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 01:40 AM
  #28  
NZConvertible's Avatar
I'm a boost creep...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 8
From: Auckland, New Zealand
Originally posted by Rx-7Blazin
its simple mazda put dual to make it quiet, just like they put a restrictive intake on to be quiet and restrictive exhaust manifolds for quiet.
You're right and wrong. Duals are quieter, but not because they're more restrictive. There're quieter because parallel muffers only deal with half the noise energy each, as I've already said. This means they don't have to be as restictive to achieve the same noise reduction.
yes ive seen under a 3rd gen there isnt much room but if it was nessicary to put it they would have probly designed the gas tank differently.
You say that like it would be easy...

Last edited by NZConvertible; Jul 24, 2003 at 01:43 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 01:54 AM
  #29  
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta.Georgia
single= lighter,look better (IMO)and cheaper
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 02:25 AM
  #30  
DEZERTE's Avatar
Thread Starter
777** The Anti-rice
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
ok... but why do u say that single 3" is better for a turbo, u said the stock Y pipe is 2", wouldnt two 2" be better than one 3"? and holy **** my car is loud it sets off alarms, and its not a true dual, i dont imagine that it woudl be louder if i only had one pipe (shrug) but i dont see how a Single 3" flows better than split 2"s... somebody explain this?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:39 AM
  #31  
NZConvertible's Avatar
I'm a boost creep...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 8
From: Auckland, New Zealand
I'm not sure if that was for me, but I'll answer anyway...
Originally posted by DEZERTE
ok... but why do u say that single 3" is better for a turbo, u said the stock Y pipe is 2", wouldnt two 2" be better than one 3"?
That whole "single for turbo, dual for NA" thing is BS. It's about pipe size, not just the number of pipes. A pair of 2" pipes can't flow as much as as a single 3" pipe, but a pair of 2.5" pipes can flow a lot more than a single 3" pipe.
...my car is loud it sets off alarms, and its not a true dual, i dont imagine that it woudl be louder if i only had one pipe (shrug)
For the third time, two mufflers in parallel only have to deal with half the noise energy each, so the exhaust is quieter. This shouldn't be hard to understand...
i dont see how a Single 3" flows better than split 2"s... somebody explain this?
Because it's much bigger. See above.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 08:34 AM
  #32  
Cheers!'s Avatar
Former Rx7 *****
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,534
Likes: 0
From: Mississauga
pi*r^2

for 3 inch diameter we get x-section area of aprox 7.07 inch^2

for 2 inch diameter we get... aprox 3.14

therefore two 2inch pipes have total cross sectional area os 6.283

6.283 < 7.07


however for 2.5 inch pipes you get Xsection area of 4.91 inch^2

two 2.5 inch pipes give u total x section area of 9.82 inch^2

9.82 > 7.07

understand?

also energy is conserved. (good assumption here)

energy can be in the form of sound, heat, kinetic there are others too... lets focus on above.

since energy is conserved, the part where the exhaust pulse which is basically sound, heat, kinetic is split into two.

Therefore total energy /2

each muffler now has 1/2 the amount of energy it needs to absorb.

Last edited by Cheers!; Jul 24, 2003 at 08:37 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 11:44 AM
  #33  
DEZERTE's Avatar
Thread Starter
777** The Anti-rice
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Maybe I will go with a Tri-exhaust to make it even quieter.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 09:37 PM
  #34  
Rx-7Blazin's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 886
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Tx
I didnt mean it to sound like i sayd the fake duals on the rx-7s where more restrictive thats why there quiet i meant to just show a statement that most stock cars lean twards quiet more than how restrictive something is.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 03:24 AM
  #35  
DEZERTE's Avatar
Thread Starter
777** The Anti-rice
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
My new idea

ok from the information i gathered on this thread, i ahve decided to put a third muffler in the center, to increase flow, while reducing noise at the same time, here is a picture of what i wanted kinda.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 04:18 AM
  #36  
1987RX7guy's Avatar
Eat Rice Don't Drive it.
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,752
Likes: 1
From: Laredo, Tx
how are you gonna get it under the gas tank?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 04:24 AM
  #37  
DEZERTE's Avatar
Thread Starter
777** The Anti-rice
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
how are you gonna get it under the gas tank?
ill either run it through the gas tank, or around, maybe under though... i still woudl ratrher just run it through.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 04:27 AM
  #38  
1987RX7guy's Avatar
Eat Rice Don't Drive it.
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,752
Likes: 1
From: Laredo, Tx
lol this **** is rich.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 04:33 AM
  #39  
RoninAutoBoX's Avatar
Old School Rotors
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 883
Likes: 0
From: South Florida
I want duals for my car at this point. better performance and quiter sound? Can't be beat!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bigtuna
Single Turbo RX-7's
9
Oct 8, 2015 10:01 PM
rotor_veux
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
7
Sep 19, 2015 07:13 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:03 PM.