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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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Heres some things to think about:

That engine probably costs 200$ to ship.. They ship it to you and its no good.. You spend another $200 to ship it back.. So for $1200 bucks, plus the labor costs, you could have a blown engine sent to you.. inspected.. then have to send it back.. Realistically putting you out at least $400-600 beyond the 1200. So for 1600-1800 that you may spend on that engine, you could spend 1600-1800 on an engine from J2LA and get the engine from someone who knows rotary engines.

Who's the importer?. There is a long list of bad JDM importers going here that have bad reputations with rotaries. You may also want to look for local importers in the yellow pages. Save yourself some shipping and go pick it up. That way you can look at it yourself.

Also running the N/A drivetrain is fine. Aaron Cake has been running an N/A drivetrain on his TII and its holding up fine. Although it is recommended that you go with the TII when you can.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 12:55 AM
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I don't undertand, if i get the motor with a startup warranty and before i even install it have it tested i can send it back if its no good, wheres the problem? yeah i'll waste a little money on shipping, but im a gambler, if its a good motor im getting a hell of a deal
Because the time and aggravation trying to return it is not worth the extra couple hundred bucks upfront.

Edit: and 1200 bucks isn't a hell of a deal. BTW
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dot_txt
Heres some things to think about:

That engine probably costs 200$ to ship.. They ship it to you and its no good.. You spend another $200 to ship it back.. So for $1200 bucks, plus the labor costs, you could have a blown engine sent to you.. inspected.. then have to send it back.. Realistically putting you out at least $400-600 beyond the 1200. So for 1600-1800 that you may spend on that engine, you could spend 1600-1800 on an engine from J2LA and get the engine from someone who knows rotary engines.

Who's the importer?. There is a long list of bad JDM importers going here that have bad reputations with rotaries. You may also want to look for local importers in the yellow pages. Save yourself some shipping and go pick it up. That way you can look at it yourself.

Also running the N/A drivetrain is fine. Aaron Cake has been running an N/A drivetrain on his TII and its holding up fine. Although it is recommended that you go with the TII when you can.
Yes, i plan to swap the TII drivetrain as soon as i find a great deal on the rear end, but untill then, im just trying to get a good running turbo motor in as soon as possible, installed for under 2400 parts and all. I will have the motor tested by a friend of a friend for likely no cost before it is even installed, if the motor is ****, i will tell them it didnt start under the 30 day warranty.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Because the time and aggravation trying to return it is not worth the extra couple hundred bucks upfront.

Edit: and 1200 bucks isn't a hell of a deal. BTW

Im sorry, not to be arrogant at all, but if you had a jdm 13bt with an afermarket turbo with good compression for 1200, compared to a stock 13bt for 2000, is that not a great deal?
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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You will still have to return it, which will be at cost to you.. And shipping these engines isn't cheap.. I have helped a few people with JDM swaps.. And believe me trying to gamble now will cost you much more later than the few hundred you are trying to save..
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Please, keep it coming, nobody hold back, tear me to ****, i want everyones opinions and experiences... i want to make a fully educated decision...
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Spectrum24x
I don't undertand, if i get the motor with a startup warranty and before i even install it have it tested i can send it back if its no good, wheres the problem? yeah i'll waste a little money on shipping, but im a gambler, if its a good motor im getting a hell of a deal
You are also assuming that the same scumbags that sell you a **** engine are going to give you your 1200.00 back.

I have had no issues either beating an na drivetrain, i am only at 6lbs tho .

do what you want, its your time and money. I do understand wanting to be cheap. I am cheap as hell, not with engines or turbos though. A good engine decision will save you TONS in the future.

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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Im sorry, not to be arrogant at all, but if you had a jdm 13bt with an afermarket turbo with good compression for 1200, compared to a stock 13bt for 2000, is that not a great deal?
No.. Namely because you have a 20% chance of that engine showing up with no problems off the shipping pallet.. And some of the other members of this forum wouldn't give that probability 10%. Problems can range from stuck apex seals to leaky gaskets, or just a whole blown motor.. I'm not telling you what to do with your money.. But I am telling you from experience that skimping now will screw you later..
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Aaron Cake has been running an N/A drivetrain on his TII and its making strange noises now and is going replaced by a turbo unit.
Fixxed.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dot_txt
No.. Namely because you have a 20% chance of that engine showing up with no problems off the shipping pallet.. And some of the other members of this forum wouldn't give that probability 10%. Problems can range from stuck apex seals to leaky gaskets, or just a whole blown motor.. I'm not telling you what to do with your money.. But I am telling you from experience that skimping now will screw you later..
....to warped or trashed out of spec housings and rotors, giving you a 1200.00 paper weight. Seems like a good deal though...........

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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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Buy the $1200 engine and when you get bent over a barrel buy the J2LA engine. You're obviously too gullible to learn from advice and need to be fucked first hand.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Originally Posted by dot_txt
Aaron Cake has been running an N/A drivetrain on his TII and its making strange noises now and is going replaced by a turbo unit.
Fixxed.

Nice.. Haha I wasn't aware of his loss..
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Aaron Cake has been running an N/A drivetrain on his TII and it was holding up fine for a while at 380whp. He then began to push even more, and after tons of street driving, and 1/4 mile passes he is now changing. 380WHP.

superfixed.

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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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Sigh, it's kinda hard to break parts without traction. He had an open rear and was spinning 4 gears at the drag strip. If he had and an LSD and the car hooked I'm sure it would have imploded long ago.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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sigh, 380whp.

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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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