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Stock front, none in rear. The rear comes out predictably under excess power and is very easy to control. Of course that could have something to do with the rediculous rear camber I had.... Anyway, once I get the money I plan on running RB sways with the stiffer connector rods.
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Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
RB front bar and S5 NA rear bar. Ditched the rear RB stabilizer bar after experienting on the track. May try no rear sway bar next time.
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I thought running stiffer front with stock rear would induce more understeer?
----------------TO INCREASE UNDERSTEER-------TO INCREASE OVERSTEER
Front Tire Pressure-------- Lower----------------------Higher
Rear Tire Pressure---------Higher---------------------Lower
Front Tire Width-------------Smaller--------------------Larger
Rear Tire Width-------------Larger---------------------Smaller
Front Camber----------------More Positive------------More Negative
Rear Camber----------------More Negative-----------More Positive
Front Springs----------------Stiffer----------------------Softer
Rear Springs----------------Softer----------------------Stiffer
Front Anti-Sway Bar--------Stiffer----------------------Softer
Rear Anti-Sway Bar--------Softer----------------------Stiffer
Toe-In-------------------------Increase------------------Decrease
I plan on going with atleast a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar to compensate for running larger tires in the rear. Maybe try that out for a while then try the front as well.
----------------TO INCREASE UNDERSTEER-------TO INCREASE OVERSTEER
Front Tire Pressure-------- Lower----------------------Higher
Rear Tire Pressure---------Higher---------------------Lower
Front Tire Width-------------Smaller--------------------Larger
Rear Tire Width-------------Larger---------------------Smaller
Front Camber----------------More Positive------------More Negative
Rear Camber----------------More Negative-----------More Positive
Front Springs----------------Stiffer----------------------Softer
Rear Springs----------------Softer----------------------Stiffer
Front Anti-Sway Bar--------Stiffer----------------------Softer
Rear Anti-Sway Bar--------Softer----------------------Stiffer
Toe-In-------------------------Increase------------------Decrease
I plan on going with atleast a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar to compensate for running larger tires in the rear. Maybe try that out for a while then try the front as well.
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It is my understanding that stiffer sway bars increase the grip, therefore stiffer rear increases rear grip, inducing more understeer. Stiffening the front would give more grip to the front, reducing understeer. If you get stickier rears, you would want to stiffen the front sway bar to compensate.
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
Running a stiffer front with no rear might produce too much oversteer. It works for me because the front is stock.
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generally, if you run no sway bar with a moderately stiff suspension, the result will be favorable, at the track anyway. the lack of a sway bar allows enough body roll/weight transfer to carry the rear end around. Im not sure how FCs react to this mod...but on my AE86, removing the rear sway bar is probably one of the best things i could've done to that car. the balance is alot different on these cars tho.
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
It is my understanding that stiffer sway bars increase the grip, therefore stiffer rear increases rear grip, inducing more understeer. Stiffening the front would give more grip to the front, reducing understeer. If you get stickier rears, you would want to stiffen the front sway bar to compensate.
you are wrong...
stiff/bigger rear swaybar increases oversteer
do a few turns with no front sway....
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I have RB sways and endlinks on my vert so I can tell you this.
Vert sway bars are the same as the aftermarket ones RB sells. when we took them off my 88 vert they were the same as the stockers except the RB ones were red. So that was wasted money. I suggest you find someone parting out a vert and get the heavier sways and save a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure you buy the RB end links (front and back)to connect them up.
Vert sway bars are the same as the aftermarket ones RB sells. when we took them off my 88 vert they were the same as the stockers except the RB ones were red. So that was wasted money. I suggest you find someone parting out a vert and get the heavier sways and save a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure you buy the RB end links (front and back)to connect them up.
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
I have RB sways and endlinks on my vert so I can tell you this.
Vert sway bars are the same as the aftermarket ones RB sells. when we took them off my 88 vert they were the same as the stockers except the RB ones were red. So that was wasted money. I suggest you find someone parting out a vert and get the heavier sways and save a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure you buy the RB end links (front and back)to connect them up.
Vert sway bars are the same as the aftermarket ones RB sells. when we took them off my 88 vert they were the same as the stockers except the RB ones were red. So that was wasted money. I suggest you find someone parting out a vert and get the heavier sways and save a couple hundred bucks. Just make sure you buy the RB end links (front and back)to connect them up.
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