can someone suggest an aftermarket setup to replace the electronic suspension on a 87na. I will have added weight in the rear from a custom stereo.

 

ground control coilovers with tokico Ilumina 5-way adjustables

Justin

 

Ground control coil over kit ($400) with a full set of non adjustable tokicos ($500). Try to mount the amps as far forward as possible along with anything else that could be moved between the axles.

 

www.k2rd.com the agx KYB are on sale $355 for all 4. If you are serious about racing then the GC coil overs might be a good idea, if not go with RB springs or ST springs!

 

I'm curious why everyone thinks the GC coil overs are a race ready mod? The price is about the same as the springs, but you get to adjust ride height. I can't see any reason to NOT get the coil overs. The ride quality is actualy better with the GC setup on my vert. I'd like to hear some reasons to use the RB springs ...

 

Same as just the Springs? Lets see $199 for eibachs, $240 for the RBs and 175 for the ST's. Now lets take the most expensive springs sets $240 for the RB's against the $400 for the GCs, thats a $160 difference.

In my case I bought the ST's, KYB AGX, and suspension energey for a total of $600, so with an extra $200 for the cost of the GC, I got shocks and all around Poly bushings!

So let me ask you what is the purpose of using GC in a daily driven car, that may not see solo II in its whole life?

 

I'd agree. because unless you set up the coil overs correctly by corner weighting. you could just as easily upset the handling and make it worse, rather then making it better. some times too much adjustment is a bad thing. the aftermarket spring's company did all the adjustment and testing for you. now you just bolt it on. and for less money.

unless you are crazy like a few of us , I don't really see the need for coil overs. unless you just want a different height then what any of the spring companys offer.

 

You're not at the mercy of the spring for what your ride height is going to be. It can be set to anything you want. Don't like the slightly raised stance on some FC rears, not a problem with coil overs.

If you're into autocross & drag racing, you can change springs depending on what the car is doing that weekend without pulling the strut apart every time.

 

OR, just freaking poor like me!! I saw your set up from K2RD and I WISH i could afford it, probable in the next 5 years, judging than it took me about 5 years to gather all the $$$ for the struts, shocks, etc!

BTW - Where did you bought your engine or did you had it rebuilded?

 

So you are paying an extra $200 for height adjustment alone? Damn too much $$$ in your hand

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If you're into autocross & drag racing, you can change springs depending on what the car is doing that weekend without pulling the strut apart every time.

If you are autocrossing or drag racing then by all means, as I said in my first post ". If you are serious about racing then the GC coil overs might be a good idea, if not go with RB springs or ST springs!"

 

That's the cost of another set of springs if you don't like the ride height of the ones you bought or you need something for a different application.

 

As I said before too $$$ in your hand! theres nothing more to it! It is commonly known that most aftermarket springs will reducce the height from .5-.75 inches. You don't buy them expecting a 1.5 drop

 

The reason why people who road race use coil overs is why?

- better handling

The reason I use coil overs?

- better handling
- ride height adjustability
- more room for tire
- more suspension travel when lowered
- lower stance improves looks and aerodynamics

All that is worth $200 in my book.

 

Yeah, but the drop will vary depending on the year of the FC and whether or not you've done weight mods, etc.

If you go with springs and the drop looks uneven front-to-back, or it's not what you hoped for, you're outta luck.

With coil-overs, you're guaranteed to get the ride height you want. $200 is not a lot of money to make sure the results are exactly what you want. Some people would rather gamble on results if it means saving money, but no-one likes it when they lose.

I guess that's the fine line between the perfectionsist and the 'good enough' guy. If you're a 'good enough' guy, then springs should be just fine. They were for me.

 

OMG you are debating a issue, and you just prove yourself wrong. Let me quote you:

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I'm curious why everyone thinks the GC coil overs are a race ready mod?

Now look at your answer above, you are autocrossing for god sakes. All I said was:

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If you are serious about racing then the GC coil overs might be a good idea, if not go with RB springs or ST springs!

I'll tell you what in my book $1100 foa a halltech is THE WAY TO GO + tunning $$$, however some of us don't have that amount $$$ to spend. Hell I even take it further, I KNOW some of us wished we had a couple of extra $$$ in order to buy a T2 rather than a NA. On any case if you have the $$$.

I am just droping this, you all have your own ideas, all I have is a tight budget. However to those who are reading this thread, ask TED for his opinion. I recommend Ted bcause to most of you (including me) acknoledge he is a very informative guy.

Then talk to me about it

 

I have never autocrossed; nor have I ever said I did. Where do you see me stating that I autocross? I mentioned road racers use the coil overs for greater handling capabilities but that does not mean I road race. This should not have turned into a heated discussion. I'm sorry if you took any of my posts as a insult.

 

I found the non-adjustable tokico HPs for about $400 for all 4. Are those the same as you are talking about?

 

Don't worry about it, I never took it as an insult or a heated discussion for that matter. We were just stating our ideas, which is cool with................even though I WON J/K!!

and my bad, I mixed your point on of view on racers vs you.....my bad

My apologies to you, if I insulted in you in any way whatsoever.

 

Nope, we are talking about the KYB AGX adjustable struts, the 4 set is on sale for $355 @ www.K2RD.com can't wait too install them

 

Well put. Ditto...

 

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J/K

 

it's the stock factory one, never touched

 

Thank You. I've never been called that before...but to provide some more useful input: I've had RB, then Intrax and now GC. I'll stick with the coilovers and the Intrax were garbage. RB are good.

 

Don't get it personal , I am not against GC, its just that I don't have enough $$$ for it. As I said before GC cost $400 and I bought struts, springs and the whole energy suspension bushings for $600. If I had the money...............I would've bought not the GC but the Teins

 

My bad , I was referring to Adrian engines!