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Old 04-24-03, 02:04 AM
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Sugar in gas=rebuild and bridgeport

Since i read this forum everyday. I thought i would share my recent experiences with the people of this forum. First off this is my car.....87 Turbo 2 with 89 jspec s5 engine and turbo.
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Up until a few weeks ago the car had around 95psi compression solid on all faces of both rotors. The car started gettin hard to start and easy to flood. I thought injectors were suspect, so i pull them to replace with some spares i have. The screens in them are packed with sugar. Pull the fuel pump and there is a good cup or more of sugar in my tank. Not to mention what is stuck on the pump strainer and inline fuel filter. now to compression test and hope for the best.........40psi all faces front and rear. I pull the motor and take it apart expecting to see some form of baked on sugar coating everything, not the case at all, everything was very clean and unharmed. Since i am rebuilding it and have it apart i decided i should port it, and since the car is not very streetable as it is with a 6puck unsprung clutch. what the hell a bridge port.........and thats where i am now in my project.....in the middle of bridge porting while i wait for my rebuild kit to arrive.
I'm also cleaning, polishing and painting everything i possibly can while i have it apart.

oh here's a few of the engine tore apart on a table and the painted bay

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Dont you love it when little ***** have nothing better to do than ruin your car? One of the many reasons why I am the ONLY person to park in my garage (can easily fit 2 cars)
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anyone care to explain to me what does sugar do that destroys the engine? i have heard of people doing this and destroying engines in the past, but i never understood how it destroyed the engine


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It can do two things one is called "carmelizing" the engine where the heat cause the sugar to basically turn into somewhat molasses and you have to take the engine apart and clean each part of it to get all the sticky substance off, on piston driven engines it can stop pistons from moving and such
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Best case scenario is the fuel filters are clogged. Worst is the engine is stuck. Pretty much anything inbetween that can happen.
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I'll post more pics of the porting and the very clean engine this weekend if anyone is interested
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Sugar doesn't dissolve in gas, so if you've "sugared", just pull the fuel pump, drain the tank and replace the fuel filter for a quick fix.
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Dang man, I 'm sorry to hear that. People like that just don't make sence.

Keep us informed on how the rebuild is going. Post some pics of the bridgeport when your done.
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Sorry to hear that there are so many ***holes out there. If I ever caught some kids doing that I would beat them mercilessly and I wouldn't care how old they were....
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you could pour some water in there and dissolve the sugar, then suck it up with a big syringe. ugly Z parked next to you too
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Wow, so the internals were clean??

Is it possible the clogging caused her to simply run lean?

How the hell did they jimmy open the gas door?

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I would think confectioner's sugar would screw it up worse than granulated sugar. the confectioner's would probably get past most of the filters.
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Originally posted by skyypilot
Sorry to hear that there are so many ***holes out there. If I ever caught some kids doing that I would beat them mercilessly and I wouldn't care how old they were....
me too man, me too.. fscking kids..
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can anyone host those pics or know of a place i can host them that doesn't have bandwidth restrictions
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Originally posted by rx_7_driver
anyone care to explain to me what does sugar do that destroys the engine?
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can anyone host those pics or know of a place i can host them that doesn't have bandwidth restrictions
email a couple to me, ill host em, and post the URLs..

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haha... fsck.... file system checker... haha...
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Originally posted by Wankel7
Wow, so the internals were clean??

Is it possible the clogging caused her to simply run lean?

How the hell did they jimmy open the gas door?

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Flat head screw drivers do that pretty easily.
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Originally posted by dr0x
Flat head screw drivers do that pretty easily.
i cant have this so easy to get at.. hmm.. maybe one of those auto-super-store gas caps w/ key locks?

i hate having that vulnerable feeling with cars.. even though ive never run into anyone who's that stupid, but still..

btw ill post a link to those pics.. just lemme upload em..
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Originally posted by Black13B
email a couple to me, ill host em, and post the URLs..

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Pic's!!???
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yeah that sucks. I had someone steal the stock muffler tips off my car and it really made me mad!! you just know they drove off laughing in there honda civic
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umm.. all the pics ARE working for me (in his original post)..

in case they ARENT however...

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