3isacharm

I've been at this thing with every fooking tool i know, pb penetrating spray, breaker extension, and even a torch for the last few hours and i've gotten nothing. anyone have any tips from experience that might help? i've got to get this done by tomorrow so i can leave for school. thanks.

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

Hit it with a hamma! Damn dude you tried just about everything you can. I say you go at it for a couple of minutes with a hammer to try and get the surface tension to soften up a little. Then hit is with PB again and then after it dries hit it again then heat it with the torch while your friend hits it with the breaker bar.

Bambam7

Soak it with the lube and tap on it for a minute with a hammer. It sets up vibration that really helps the lube travel.
The only solution after that is leverage! Make sure you have a nice wrench on that nut and reef away.. get underneath it and push with your legs against the frame if you have to.
The only excuse for not getting it off is if you are a complete wuss!
Girl.
lol

MtnRacer

Not to insult, but somebody's got to say it... You're absolutely positive that your turning it the right way, right?

Steve

Bambam7

Ha, I actually made that mistake for a split second on that nut... something about being upside down, under the car and all that....

MtnRacer

Me too. That's why I asked.

Steve

Madrx7racer

I'm with ya on that one..it took me taking my car completely apart to learn COUNTERCLOCKWISE TO UNSCREW!!! but u have to make sure ur going counterclockwise when u look at it dead on.....

3isacharm

hehe, that's an honest question, and yes. i even double checked on my brother's transmission from his fd (if i'm looking from the passenger side, it looks like it's being turned to the right). i'll try banging on it a little more with the hammer, i was doing that a little bit but it didn't seem to help. also, if i really rip on it like you said bambam7, it will completely strip and i'll be screwed. it's already started to strip. i don't want to try and drill it out, that would REALLY suck. i'm giving up for the night seeing as i've been out in 25 degree weather all day on this one goddamn bolt. WHY IN THE HELL IS IT SQUARE??!! i'll let you guys know how tomorrow goes. thanks for the tips guys.

MtnRacer

Umm, it's stripping? What kind of tool are you using on it? You "should" be using a box end wrench. It's puzzling why the thing is so jammed on there, because that area rarely sees corrosion and is surrounded by gear oil. Doesn't exactly spell "seized."

Steve

Bambam7

It won't strip... because it's square. I hope you aren't using an adjustable wrench on it.. Use a regular open end wrench- fits much tighter. Lube it, hit it, then crank it! (I'm talking about the nut. (the one on the car. ) ) Perv.

n4ji

iTrader: (1)

Give it a rest for a few minutes, then go at it with all the ***** you can. That's what I had to do with mine when I changed my tranny fluid. Get below it and push up, don't pull because that will strip the threads. I must give you kudos though on trying to get the fill cap off first rather than taking the drain plug out, then being totally screwed.

Mr. Gadget

Righty tighty - lefty loosy

MtnRacer

When I get tired, I use my feet. Your leg muscles are about 3-4 times the size of your arm muscles, there's a lot more force that you can generate. Maybe he should try this.

Steve

3isacharm

i started off with an adjustable square wrench, then to vice grips, now i'm on a 14mm wrench with a forged socket and 12" extension for more leverage. the vice grips got a solid hold on it, but i could not move them. since the vice grips are the only tool that do not slip, i may go back with them and the extension for more leverage. when i first got to it, i could barely see the outside threads, and when i drained the oil about 1-1.5 quarts of dark brown came out. i'm guessing this thing hasn't been taken off in at least 3 years.

MtnRacer

This is your problem. You need to use the right tools. Get a box-end/open-ended wrench.

Steve

3isacharm

you mean one of these?

MtnRacer

Yesiree. That's the one.

Steve

3isacharm

that's what i'm using

silverrotor

iTrader: (1)

You've got a 3rd gen, right? I have a brand new s4 NA Plug I have absolutely no use for. I'd give up for free If anyone wants It.

3isacharm

my brother does, i'm rocking a 90 GTU. i'd be glad to take that plug off your hands though.

Bambam7

Use one of those wrenches... if you can't get a breaker bar around it, a trick is to use another, long box end wrench (the kind with a round end, like a socket) and you can hook that into the end of the wrench that you are using to turn the nut.... it makes it twice as long, for more leverage.... that's what I had to do.
You might have already screwed the bolt by butchering it with vice grips- what were you thinking?

3isacharm

it wouldn't have mattered, the edges of the bolt were rounded anyway, it's like the thing was never meant to come off with a conventional wrench. the problem with the open end wrench is that it is just a little big, so it doesn't grab a hold of much. so it rotates around, and when it does grab a piece of a corner, it strips it. the 13mm is just a little small, too, so i may end up just gripping it real hard with the vice grip, torquing it off, and sourcing another one.

Bambam7

Can you get an angle grinder up there??
Grind the edges of the nut a little bit, just enough so you can hammer a 13mm wrench onto it.

3isacharm

i thought about pulling out the dremel, but there's no room for my grinder, it's pretty large. i was worried it would weaken the bolt and the corners would be unable to take the pressure.

Bambam7

Well, you can always grind out the 13mm wrench a little bit if you want to sacrifice it.

I recall my metric set being loose on that actually, now that yuo mention it. Had to use SAE or something....

Well, if you are truly screwed and don't think you can get it off, you can always fill the tranny through the bottom hole. It's messy, and you have to use a filler hose (the kind that screws onto the top of the oil bottle) with maybe a bit of duct tape around it to seal up agaist the hole. It's messy, kink the hose when you have to change to bottle #2.... it's doable though.
The fill hole also doubles as the level indicator.. so you will have to measure out 2.6 litres to get the proper amount.
Even if you can't get enough in, it'll be drivable, and you can drive to an auto shop where they can weld a bar onto the end of the nut and crank it off.
You can try brazing one on there yourself if you want, but not sure if it'll hold.