2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

street port na power output not right.

Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:22 PM
  #1  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
street port na power output not right.

I have an 87 na street ported motor with intake and full exhust yet the power out put to the rear wheels is less than stock.

124rwhp
119tq

power output should be more than that i would think. whats the deal here. need ideas on whats wrong.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:31 PM
  #2  
RXciting's Avatar
GrapefruitRacing?
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 0
From: PartSource
**** if it's streetported i think you should be seeing at least over 160 with those mods..

hav you done a compressio check??
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:38 PM
  #3  
So close to 12's!!!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
From: Canada
5/6th ports not opening correctly.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:38 PM
  #4  
RXciting's Avatar
GrapefruitRacing?
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 0
From: PartSource
yea could be that too... didn't cross my mind :S
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 01:11 PM
  #5  
cwsttu's Avatar
1.3L is not that small
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,470
Likes: 1
From: Nacogdoches Tx
hope you did that to the motor youself or had somebody you trust do it.... otherwise if you bought it streetported it might have been a scam..... otherwise check the compression and your 5th and 6th ports.... does the car run well? timing set correctly? any hesitation
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 02:20 PM
  #6  
koukifc3s's Avatar
Clogged cat
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,000
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CA
what yr, other mods?
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 02:32 PM
  #7  
Kenteth's Avatar
Like Ghandi with a gun
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,584
Likes: 0
From: Rapid City, SD
thats terrible... whats the story on it?

EDIT: I was in whichita a few years ago, they were rebuilding the interstate/turnpike at the time.
They ever get it finished?

Last edited by Kenteth; Nov 2, 2004 at 02:42 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 02:36 PM
  #8  
DerangedHermit's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,040
Likes: 5
From: Knoxville, TN 37916
What kind of streetport? If it's just a small streetport those numbers could be *decent* depending on how many miles are on the engine.

I would guess either: a) you got screwed and it's not ported, b) your 5/6th ports aren't opening (does it have S4 intake manifolds or S5, with S5 the VDI might not be working), or c) your engine needs a compression check.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 07:38 PM
  #9  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
What did it do before?

6 ports not working?
Ignition timing not in spec?
Fuel injectors too big?
FUel pump too big?


-Ted
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:09 PM
  #10  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
The motor was rebuilt by atkins rotary and installed by a rotary mechnic here in town. the 5th and 6th are working as i can see them move when reving. One thing that i thought i could be is that I have a falty injector or all injector are drity or cloged. Because it idles rough and the highest i can get the idle to go is 900 rpms with the screw almost all the way out. maybe I just do have enough fuel period.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:15 PM
  #11  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
also the motor sound like its runing lean with alot of back firing. When its cold it hesitates when the ports are supose to open but when it warms up everything seem to be fine
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:24 PM
  #12  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
How much miles after the rebuild?


-Ted
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:35 PM
  #13  
ronyrx7's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: columbus ohio
probobly not brken in did the injectors work b4. comp check then get back to us
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:19 PM
  #14  
speeddemon32's Avatar
No more 7 or 8
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: San Bernardino - So Cal
could be not broken in yet....... but first, are you comparing your 124 wheel horspower to the 146 flywheel horse power stock?
If so then there is your problem. ....... (you dont have a problem.)
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:20 PM
  #15  
speeddemon32's Avatar
No more 7 or 8
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: San Bernardino - So Cal
..... although i would still think you would be a little over 124 rwhp.... is this a N/A?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:56 PM
  #16  
1RevvinFC3S's Avatar
DOWNSTAIRS MIXUP
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,723
Likes: 0
From: Lampasas, TX
I would ASSUME its N/A because if a TII is making less than 130 at the wheels, I would say its only running on one rotor.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:37 PM
  #17  
SAiamNE's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB
Originally Posted by 1RevvinFC3S
I would ASSUME its N/A because if a TII is making less than 130 at the wheels, I would say its only running on one rotor.
If you have no clue what your talking about please don't post... No he is oviously not running on one rotor.. LOL
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:51 PM
  #18  
rxspeed87's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 968
Likes: 0
From: Caldwell,ID
lol red the whole thing
he was saying a tii making 130hp is prolly running on one rotor


not this guys' N/A is running on one rotor
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:40 PM
  #19  
koukifc3s's Avatar
Clogged cat
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,000
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CA
if its not broken it why dyno it?
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 02:31 PM
  #20  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
It has a little over 15000 mile on the engine so it broken in. I just changed the spark plug and it helped but not alot. They looked like they needed to be anyways. I don't think the guy who installed my engine checked to see if the injector were ok. But as far as i know they are the orginals. Yes its a N/A. I'll do compression check later and update
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 03:29 PM
  #21  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
Update compression test done and results are 55 to 60psi in front chamber and 60 to 65 in rear all are consistent . Don't know weather this is good or bad. Answer pleases

Last edited by atlbaseball877; Nov 4, 2004 at 03:32 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 04:16 PM
  #22  
koukifc3s's Avatar
Clogged cat
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,000
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CA
Those are not good #s

"115+ is like new, 100-115 is healthy, 90-100 is getting weak(1 year or less in most cases) below 90 could blow at any moment."

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro...lder/comp.html

Are you sure you did the comp check right?
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 04:52 PM
  #23  
atlbaseball877's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Wichita. KS
I did it with a normal compression checker(autozone) and followed the instrutions in the hanes book. The book tells me to use the top plug hole and the website you gave me tell me to use the bottom plug hole. I'll try the bottom plug holes tomorrow and check back with results.

Last edited by atlbaseball877; Nov 4, 2004 at 04:58 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:13 PM
  #24  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Did you prop the throttle when doing the compression test?
Did you take out both trailing (top) spark plugs?
Did the battery have top charge?
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FAQ/compress.html


-Ted
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:46 PM
  #25  
ronyrx7's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: columbus ohio
if you folwd the instructions and got those numbers there is something wrong i have an autozone tester and my results are 120 on each rotor 15000 miles when did these problem start. there is no way you have been driving that car for so long in that condition.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:15 PM.