straight forward: how can my NA hit around 200whp if not more
01-27-06, 09:10 PM
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straight forward: how can my NA hit around 200whp if not more
i wanna know what it takes.. it seems Kahren can do nearly so with exhaust .. a port.. and a standalone... i wanna know what my potential is with an s5 NA ... gimme some ideas! thanks
01-27-06, 09:25 PM
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Periphial Port, some big injectors, custom PP intake manifold with velocity stacks, and a EMS.
well, I just pulled all of that out of my ***, but I'm sure it's about in the right direction
well, I just pulled all of that out of my ***, but I'm sure it's about in the right direction
01-27-06, 10:34 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/time-slips-dyno-128/na-%3D-193-9-hp-141-tq-498774/
there you go........ 193rwhp is as close to the 200 mark as ive seen (documemted) on a "streetable" NA rx7.....
there you go........ 193rwhp is as close to the 200 mark as ive seen (documemted) on a "streetable" NA rx7.....
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01-27-06, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CompuBob
Periphial Port, some big injectors, custom PP intake manifold with velocity stacks, and a EMS.
well, I just pulled all of that out of my ***, but I'm sure it's about in the right direction
well, I just pulled all of that out of my ***, but I'm sure it's about in the right direction
Kahren built an s5 n/a motor with his style of porting, TII manifolds port matched to n/a block, and an s-afc (tuned) with stock ecu. Car had rb header + straight pipe + catback also I believe.
Was barely under 200rwhp BEFORE redline, had to pull back because it was running too lean up top. The curve looks as though it would've easily hit 200.
And all of this on a stock ECU and an s-afc... It's really not as hard as so many people seem to believe.
01-27-06, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by vipers
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=498774
there you go........ 193rwhp is as close to the 200 mark as ive seen (documemted) on a "streetable" NA rx7.....
there you go........ 193rwhp is as close to the 200 mark as ive seen (documemted) on a "streetable" NA rx7.....
Kahren had 195rwhp on stock ecu with s-afc... So in my mind 193 with standalone and a port means that either the port wasn't very good, or the tuning wasn't very good.
01-28-06, 12:47 AM
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Everyone keeps using that guy as an example like it was so amazing. But he had standalone! Standalone makes it easy.
Kahren had 195rwhp on stock ecu with s-afc... So in my mind 193 with standalone and a port means that either the port wasn't very good, or the tuning wasn't very good.
Kahren had 195rwhp on stock ecu with s-afc... So in my mind 193 with standalone and a port means that either the port wasn't very good, or the tuning wasn't very good.
200hp isnt amazing unless its on a go-kart...lol
01-28-06, 12:53 AM
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its possible to turn an fc into a go kart, no windsheild, roof, or much of a body, no doors, hood, etc. come on you die hard weight reduction guys jump on this...
but why does everyone want to reach 200 rwhp? i would much rather have 175 rwhp if its across a wide range rather than have a steep peak at 200 then drop immediately down
but why does everyone want to reach 200 rwhp? i would much rather have 175 rwhp if its across a wide range rather than have a steep peak at 200 then drop immediately down
01-28-06, 01:00 AM
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Option 1) Built N/A engine [$$$,BIG SP, BP, PP]
Option 2) Nitrous
Option 3) Turbo
That's how you can get more than 200hp out of your car. I'm all about options 1 & 2.
Option 2) Nitrous
Option 3) Turbo
That's how you can get more than 200hp out of your car. I'm all about options 1 & 2.
01-28-06, 02:30 AM
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Its not that its stupid, its just a passion. Some people just don't want the boost. I didn't for the longest time. Then I realized I did and that it would just be easier that way.
01-28-06, 04:00 AM
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I just want 13's N/A... I don't think it'd be REALLY that hard.
...if the engine I build won't do it; it'll support the nitrous for 12's :-D...
...if the engine I build won't do it; it'll support the nitrous for 12's :-D...
01-28-06, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_tj
Its not that its stupid, its just a passion. Some people just don't want the boost. I didn't for the longest time. Then I realized I did and that it would just be easier that way.
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
01-28-06, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
There's a select few people who don't want 'the boost', they're as follows:
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
01-28-06, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
There's a select few people who don't want 'the boost', they're as follows:
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
only reason why i'm not doing a Tii swap, but, that doesnt mean i still dont want a Tii haha
01-28-06, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
There's a select few people who don't want 'the boost', they're as follows:
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
A) people who can't afford it
B) people who never had it
C) old people
The whole powerband/torque curve thing just seems like a pretty common excuse people use when it turns out slow.
actually i know an old guy, a doctor, my next door neighbor actually, and he has a modded 95 supra.
he loves boost. and he's a showoff, and hes 65 haha
so not all old people don't want boost
01-28-06, 10:29 AM
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With the engine I'm building, I'm going to try for as much power as I can get with an NA, too. I don't have the time or money to do a turbo swap at the moment, so I'm going to maximize the engine I am building. That said, I plan on getting a RX-7 shell in a few years and swapping in a 13B-RE. Its not that I'm against boost, I just want to maximize my NA setup before moving on.