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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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it still won't start

i have an 87 turbo II car and i bought i think an 89-90 turboII and tranny

i dropped it in with very very little problems. now the only thing is that it woun't start.i have checked the coils, plugs and plugwires, crank angle sensor and the timing. checked the injectors and fuel system. and so far everything that i check out it is with in the talleranses.

IT STILL WOUN'T START

if you can help me out that would be kool.. if there is any IOWA People that can come over that would be even better
i can make your trouble wourth the trip over


Thanks, Michael
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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so do you get spark and fuel?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Did you swap the ECU in yoru car to the S5 ecu and harness? if not that is your problem. Unless you just used the S5 block and used all your S4 stuff
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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i have fuel and spark, i checked the fuel pressure and the min is 70 psi, the coils are with in speck and produce good spark.

i just used the s5 motor and senors... and used the wiring harnes and ecu that came with my car.

i got it run once and it sounded like the it was running on only one rotor... smoked for like 20min...

how do i know if it was running to rich....?
could it be flooding its self out?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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i just realy dont want to take it to the dealer
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Probably flooded
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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:29 AM
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well crap i have a crapy car... and crapy luck

i day before the iowa rx7 meet i found out that my grandmothers funrel was that day

and now my car woun't start. i had to replace the clutch and transmion. and now it woun't start at all. the only way that i will run is if i spay starting fluid.

so i know that its getting spark. just know fuel

can someone please please help this time ?
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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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Wow bro. Sorry to hear about all of the misfortune. If I were you I would would take the injectors and check and see if they seem to be flowing ok. You can do this by partially taking the injectors out and turning the key. See if you have a nice flow on the primaries. Also, check your fuel pump and fuel filter. Check your spark plugs they could be fouled if the engine was flooded (starting fluid is more combustible than gas and ignites easier.)
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Old May 18, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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i'm havin almost the same issue...

'88 TII that was sitting for about 5 years. Cleaned it out and replaced all vacuum lines, collant, spark plugs,etc. The car starts every now and then but not on a constant basis. We've unfloded it and have also tried starting it with the Fuel Pump Relay out. Any suggestions anyone? Oh and we replaced the fuel pump and are swapping the fuel filter becasue it seems like the car is not getting gas... Can someone please call me and help me out. 407-405-8361

-Dustin-
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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ok so we put a new fuel pump in and all the car does now is crank...doesnt turn... Any suggestions???
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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ok so we put a new fuel pump in and all the car does now is crank...doesnt turn... Any suggestions???
Doesn't turn over you mean?

Are you sure your engine is getting fuel?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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About your seventy psi fuel pressure. Is that the rail pressure OR is that with a gauge dead ended to the line coming out of the fuel filter.

Seventy psi is WAY to high for just rail pressue and is a indication that you've go the fuel rails or ?????? connected wrong.

If you just looking at the pressure coming from the fuel filter and the gauge is deadended in that line, then forget the above.

OR.......with the fuel pump check connector jumpered and the key to ON only, can you hear the fuel passing thru the fuel rails and retuning to the tank. YOu should be able to hear that. IF not, there's troubles with the fuel routing.

NOTE: The fuel lines are just the opposite on a JDM engine. Swap them around if your new engine is JDM. swap where they attach to the engine, just after the fuel filter.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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i was gonna mention the 70PSI figure also, that is way too high for rail pessure during cranking.
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