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OK

as far as rx7's i don't know that much about them
I built my first FC about 4 month ago

I really am just learning as i go

but i would like to say that there is nothing like thowing one of these things sideway

I love it to death

but what i am looking for is some help for finding out how to get more steering angle out of this car

i have heard some rumors but i need something more clear then that

I am not sure the experiance people have with these cars but full counter it about 6 beers short of a six pack from being sideways

I have my own ideas of how to go about relocating the steering tension rod but i want to know if anyone has a easier way

thanks

Wankel7

I am so confused. What do hope to acomplish by being able to have more steering authority? That is what you want? To be able to turn the wheel more?

James

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I want more steering angle so i can control the angle of the car more throughout the drift

and also be able to create more angle so in turns with increasing or decreasing radius i can more easily keep the car in a slide

In plain terms i want to be able to get the car more side ways in a drift before hitting full counter

Kenteth

what hes trying to say is that he wants mop-bucket steering...

M5150

i believe in japan they modify the hub to allow more steering angle, my guess is they make the steering rack connect closer to the spindle so you get more deflection.

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yup

thats the same stuff i have heard.

I am just wondering if there is an easier way

it doesn't sound very fun but i am going to have to
do what i have to do

Wankel7

Have you done the rear steer eliminator bushing (DTSS)?

James

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yeah

I have a 13b-rew

top mount intercoooler V-setup

full energy sus bushings

rear steer elim

tein HE's

kaaz 1.5 way

and it is all on a 1986 na

the car is amazing
but it needs more counter

we will see what happens

Wankel7

Wow, that sounds like a lot of fun! Nice setup.

neevosh

Hey Nic, you can add spacers or machine down the bumpstop on the rack. I made spacers for mine. Haven't installed them yet. I'm worried about how much thread I'll give up with spacers.

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if you could explain a little more i would appreciate it

how does a space create more angle when you need to set your toe in the same place?

i am assuming that the spacer goes between the tie rod and rack but please let me know

neevosh

It allows for more travel before you hit the bumpstop. The spacer is smaller in diameter then the bumpstop. I didn't quite get it myself until I took the boot off my rack.

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sounds like a good start

where can i find a set

and do you know how much angle it adds?

noticeable or just a little?

sub9lulu

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post some pictures of the car too, videos even better
i'd love to see that car in action

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give me some time to get some stuff together

then i will post on a site and drop a link

cymfc3s

ive been tempted to make a few additional sets. The steering is quite impressive and it makes a huge difference. I can do circles like that 4wd Chevy Truck commercial.

neevosh

I made a set of 3mm and 4mm spacers. I want to get as close to the a-arm without hitting it.

S13 Slide

how does moving the tie rod back where its bolted to the spindle help give more counter?

RETed

This seems like the easiest way to handle this...

We're relocating the steering tie rod connect points to the hub.
Haraguchi of D1 did this on his old yellow FC, and there's a bunch of other FC drifters who have done variations on this.

This is on HyperRex's FC...

You need to be careful, as the wheel/tire will easily hit the insides. Ideally, you need to run a new set of rims with less offset to clear the insides, but this will push the tires outward and will probably contact the outside fender well.















-Ted

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yes i've talked to wendel about but didnt really ask him how it works. i dont really see how it works. pulling the tie rod back gets more counter?

neevosh

Changing the pivot point closer to the center will give you more steering angle from the same amount of movement. Quick example: Hold a pen in the middle between 2 fingers and push on the end of the pen. Now push on it closer to the center the same amount. The angle the second time will be greater.

S13 Slide

ic thanks for explaining it. how precise does the new pivot point have to be? does it have to be directly in line with the old pivot point? just pulled back? since the tie rods are adjustable, you wouldnt need very precise measurements. just make sure both sides are even right?

TweakGames

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hey ted, how did this turn out? Sorry for bringing it back from the dead.

Valkyrie

I think they abandoned the idea because of unexpected camber change... or something (either way, they decided not to do it any more).

Machining the spindle is still considered standard practice for FC drifters in Japan, though... But I think they might use a different method.

TweakGames

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Ok, thank you. Does anybody have any more information on how they do it properly in japan?

Thank you.