Angry Earl

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So I just recently got a hold of a set of brand spankin' new Stance GR+'s to finally replace my old, tired, yet very dependable Tein HE's, for my FC. I have been drifting on these same HE's for almost 3 years now, and although they have served me VERY well, and have PLENTY of life left on them, it was undoubtedly time for a change.


When I checked out there website (www.stance-usa.com), they had a full on list of all the features for each model (15-way adjustable dampening, pillowball mounts, adj. camber plates, etc. ect. etc.), but I'm not going to bore you with those.

What I DID notice, when first opening the box, was at how absolutely BEEFY these things are built...


Here's a quick side by side comparison shot with my old HE's -


Fronts:




Rears:




The pillowball mounts are burly as hell:




Haha, these baaaad mamma-jammas mean business.




So, for people that have never done any serious work on their suspension before, I have tried to write a very basic and quick walkthrough of how to install these puppies on your car...


First off, take off your nice, shiny, Tanabe sway bar...it'll just get in the way.





Then, loosen and remove the 14mm nuts on top of your front shock towers.




Then, loosen and remove the bolt/nut on your front sway bar...this will be in the way too. But, you DON'T have to remove your sway bar completely.

Then, loosen and remove the 17mm bolts and nuts holding your shock tower to your spindle/control arm/brake hub...you may or may not have to remove yoru brake calipers, depending on the length of the bolts in there.




Then, your suspension should look something dilapidated, like this...



**Note** Be careful with your brake line...have something support your control arm, so it doesn't just completely drop and rip your line on it's merry way to hell. Like this picture.


Reverse install that dime piece -




Ugh.


Blangin'.

Angry Earl

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Rears:

Waaay easier; loosen and remove 4x14mm nuts on top of shock tower, and loosen 17mm bolt on bottom of strut/coilover assembly...





Replace with brand new hotnesses...








Tighten everything to factory torque(/tight enough).


Marvel at your own awesomeness.





Slapped the wheels back on, and took the car for a quick jog around the block.


The current 9k/7k spring rate is a noticeable difference from the HE's 8k/6k when turning sharply, and when pivoting the car on itself in circles.

Although one obviously needs a proper alignment after something like this, the car already felt more solid and responsive with the new setup.


I'm VERY eager to get these puppies out on the track, and have the suspension dialed in properly. The dampening adjustment on these are promising.

I'll update this thread as soon as I get some some proper seat time with these jams.






So, for all you peeps seriously considering getting new coilovers, I would definitely suggest looking into these Stance GR+'s...

They're beefy, look hard as nails, and for the price range, gives most other companies a serious run for their money.




Local distributor of Stance coilovers include:


DRIFTOFFICE in Auburn, WA.


Give them a ring at (253) 520-3888. They'll most likely have the most competitive pricing, and will prolly have it in stock for you to stare, touch, and oogle over.

fredox19

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where did you get that top IC, and how much hp is that rated too.

BIZL

good write up! Archive!

evl mnky

what did these run you?

RockLobster

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Any issues with the front top pillowballs being siezed, and causing the springs to rotate in the perches?

AlexG13B

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does it make noise when turning?

BTW On a different topic: is that a sensor for coolant temp on the upper hose?

WingsofWar

gah! did you get these from bob?! i knew he had a set laying around.

toplessFC3Sman

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well... beefiness doesnt necessarily mean that they're better, it all depends on the grade of aluminum/steel used. It'll certainly look more substantial though.

Angry Earl

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...More than you can afford, pal... S-t-a-a-a-n-c-e..vrrrrrooooom, vrrroooooooommm..."


Call Drift Office at (253) 520-3888...I'm not at liberty to disclose any prices, I don't think...



Not as far as I know...



No and yes.


Noise from what?...tires rubbing?...from the coilovers theselves?...I didn't hear anything of the sort when I drove them around...

And yes, that's a coolant temp sensor for my water temp gauge.



Yes.




Thanks all.

yusoslo

I have these as well. They are so amazing my car starts drifting when its parked!!!

Haha, actually I like these more than my HKS hyper-D, my friends JIC FLA-2's, and any other full coilover I have driven in a FC chassis.

Mindspin311

Oh, you'll know if they are making noise, any time you are doing any significant turning you'll hear the popping from the springs.

yusoslo

I have that....is it a problem that should be fixed????? please let me know. I just thought that happens with pillowball mounts.

Mindspin311

No, the pillowballs are too tight. Call Stance and tell them, they will get your info and send you a new set when they get them in.

yusoslo

I mean they make that spring "Boing noise only once or twice a week while doing tight turns at slow speeds.

Does it make a difference in saftey or performance?

Mindspin311

Call Stance get the the new pillowballs from them, its just generally a good idea to get them

rxmclaren7

say angry earl are those sway bars you are using the tenabe sustec ones??? b/c i have a set and have not had the time to put them in yet. do you feal a difference??

thanks

Hans

Angry Earl

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^^^ Yeah, they're the Tanabe Sustec's...these are burly as hell too, lol...


Car definitely feels waaay tighter with them (initial turn-ins and initiations are a noticeable more snappy, and so were transitions)...although, it should be taken into account that aftermarket sway should really compliment other suspension upgrades.


I've heard of people getting very noticable and undesired understeer ( ) while drifting, due to the sways' rigidy, and lack of other aftermarket suspension parts (coils, lsd, etc.).

V8slayer

what you doing with the old ones???

fredox19

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would like to know were did you get that top intercooler.

Angry Earl

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HE's have been sold to a friend.


ARC top mount came with the motor when ordered from J-land.

drftwerks

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HOW LOW DO THEY GO


ima install mine hopefully sometime this weekend

ilia

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^Note axle to diff mount clearance.






^Tucking an inch of tire in front...



And an inch or so in the back.

Force Fed

Nice Bosozoko pipes ^^

Funkspectrum

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I have the same coilovers on one of my TIIs. I love em.