easy p-cheesy

I did a search and I didnt get the answers I'm looking for.

I'm wanting to set my car up for drifting, but still be competative as a grip car. I've got KYB AGX adj. shocks/struts, and I'm also going to be getting a second set of wheels/tires (these will be my good ones, my current ones are grade A drift material). what would be a good set of springs to get for my needs?

easy p-cheesy

I have the money to get anything except for coil overs (I don't want them) so I'm kind of looking to make a decision.

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SoloIIdrift

Well if your setting it up for "drifting" which is kinda , I mean racing would be one thing, at any rate, you really need ground control coil overs and then get high spring rates in the rear to "drift" more.

Or the racing beat normal springs are a good cheap option, that are 20% stiffer.

Antonio

SoloIIdrift im curious. Do you race drift? I have a 2 minute clip of 3rd gens drifting in what looked as though they where racing. It was on a Road Racing track. My father also told me he caught a race on sattelite of what by his description sounded to me like pro drift racing on a street course. It wasnt Rally. ?????

easy p-cheesy

I already stated that I didn't want coil overs, I just want springs. I don't necessarily want it to be 'optimized' for drifting. I want to be able to with a change of tires, and adjusting the struts/shocks. I don't want to have to switch rear springs in the coil overs all the time. I may end up getting a coil over kit sometime later, but for now, I want springs.

Up until now, I have been going off of mazdatrix's spring rate testing, but after checking racing beats spring rates at their website, it doesn't look too accurate. my main considerations are RB, ST, and a possibility of eibach. I'm leaning away from eibach because of their progressive spring rate. I would rather have it compress at the same rate as opposed to stiffening up during a turn. I'm wanting to know if anyone can provide me with any other companies that have performance springs for the rx7 and their spring rates. if anyone has any advice on what a good set of springs, or how the spring rates should be in relation to each other (ie, more in back than front, around equal, etc...) than please feel free to pitch in.

I just don't want people telling me what's cool and not cool. I appreciate your information and opinions, but different people like different things.

and whats with the name SoloIIdrift?It makes me (and probably everyone else here) think that you would like drifting.

SoloIIdrift

Hehe, yeah it was kinda supposed to be irony, I like drifting, but I'm not all about specifically setting up my suspension for drifting, as we all know, it's not the fastest way around the course. I race in the SCCA solo II right now, in which, with a FWD car I've been know to drift on accident a few times, but I'm pretty good at controlling it. At any rate, I didn't mean to come off like a hard *** telling you what to do.

I did a good amount of research also on springs for my old TII, I'd really go with the Racing Beats, they are linear (which is good I agree with you on the lame progressives) Even thought they may not be the stiffest, they are the best buy for the money, and dont give you a huge drop. Good luck!

cleung15

I will suggest that you play around with you KYB setting. By making the setting stiffer and pump a bit more air to the rear tires, you probably able to drift at your will. Hope this help!

easy p-cheesy

I guess I only have one main question. the rest I can figure out by calling places/emails and websites. from what I've seen, spring rates that are higher in the rear make for more oversteer. and lower in the rear make for less. What I'm wanting to know is does this have more to do with the spring rates in relation (being closer to each other) or just because they're higher numbers. I'm going with what I've seen from coil overs, seeing that not everyone is comparing spring rates for performance springs.

SpeedRacer

You don't want springs that are heavier in the rear than in the front or your car will oversteer like a sonofabitch. A well balanced car might have a springs rates of say 400 Front/250 Rear. My car has 375/325 which makes my car oversteer, and its great for drifting. It doesn't oversteer so much that its unusable on the road or for auto-x. Actually it makes auto-x'ing quite fun, although I'd do better with 375/250, which I have 250's but haven't put them on yet. The closer the spring rates in relation to front and back, the more oversteer you will have. Anyways, I hate to say what others have, but if you want a car that drifts really well, you are gonna need coilovers. RB, ST etc....just don't have stiff enough spring rates. You want very little body roll for drifting. If you are intent on not getting colivers(they are only $400 from GC) then get whatever springs you want, adjust your KYB AGX's to be stiffer in the rear, and get adjustable anti-roll bars for the front and rear. This will eliminate body roll. Then you can also mess with adjusting your anti-roll bars. Stiffer in the rear will give more oversteer, stiffter up front=more understeer. Hope this helps.