Hey..I'm looking to get new shocks and springs...and I was wondering if anybody has used Suspension Techniques springs??? How large is the drop? I want the biggest drop possible...and so far its INTRAX which lowers it 1.75"..I've heard good/bad things about intrax...but I want LOW...anybody with info on the ST springs..let me know...or any other suggestions..

 

i have the intrx 1.75" drop and i love it the front is perfect... ride is good but the thing i dont like is it keeps the stock rake... i need to get the back cut...

 

With FC's, low is bad because of the semi-trailing arm rear suspension. The lower you go, the more negative camber you get. Tire wear goes through the roof!
Are you doing this for looks or handling? With any car, lower does not necessarily mean better handling, especially with the sort of drop I think you want. 1-1.5" is probably all you need from a handling point of view.
If you want to go really low for looks, that's cool (they do look good!), but be prepared for a choppy ride, poor grip on bumpy corners and rapid tire wear.
And yes, I am speaking from experience!

 

whats the lowest you can drop a '87 befor your gonna rip off your front end when turning or scrape bumps or curbs... I want to SLAM it to the ground as much as possible...

 

to solve the camber problem you can get a camber kit

 

WHAT camber kit?
Your rears are going to have like 4-6 degrees of negative camber.&nbsp The rear camber adjust bar can only dial out up to 2 degress negative.&nbsp All kinds of stupid **** like suspension binding on the rear sub frame is going to happen if you try to dial out all that camber.

The fronts can only dial-out maybe 1-2 degrees of negative camber.&nbsp You're going to end up going 3 degrees or more of negative camber.&nbsp Camber likes this eats tires.

There is NOTHING that you can bolt on that can easily dial-out this kind of negative camber.&nbsp Stop posting information you have no idea on if you have no direct experience.



-Ted

 

Sure, cut your springs by 3 coils.&nbsp You'll end up hitting pebbles on the road.&nbsp You're also going to be changing tires every month or probably crash soon cause of the crappy tire contact patch.

This isn't a HONDA.&nbsp Dropping these things screws up the suspension and suspension dynamics.&nbsp If you want to do it for looks, then fine - get some coilovers.&nbsp Else, you're a hazard on the road, and you're going to kill suspensions parts left and right...



-Ted

 

What if you got, for example:

GC coilovers
AGX Struts
The front and rear Camberkits

This won't help out in lowering the car at all???
If they don't, why they make these things?

Is there a proper way of lowering the FC????? Or is it pointless?

 

Ok, heres what you need. K2RD front camber plates, rear camber adjustment link and some kind of coilover kit. Either the K2RD or Ground Control, whatever. Slamming the car to the ground just to slam it will make it handle horribly and wear out the tires. If its too low, you cant dial out the massive negative camber in the back.

 

Practically speaking, the car should not be lowered more than 2".&nbsp Anything lower than that is just plain stupid - do you like scraping your car all over the place?&nbsp With bolt-on mods, 2" is about the most drop you can go before you start stressing the suspension and tires unnecessarily.

Why do they make these things?&nbsp Just look up at who posted!&nbsp People still have this stupid notion to drop their chassis "into the weeds".&nbsp Cool?&nbsp Yes.&nbsp Practical?&nbsp No.&nbsp No matter what I say, people are still going to want to drop their cars low - this is why there are products that are being sold for this purpose.

Not everything out there being sold is safe and practical...




-Ted

 

The FC is already pretty low. Mine scrapes pulling into my garage from the street. It's lowered almost an inch.

 

Coilovers are not made just so you can lower your car. They are to provide maximum adjustability to spring rate and for trimming ride height for corner-weighting purposes.
Struts have nothing to do with lowering, they're available so you can select the correct damping rate for the spring.
Camber kits have nothing to do with lowering, they're for setting the right camber.
All of these are exactly what you want to set up your car for sweet handling. But excessive lowering will kill your handling no matter what you put in.

 

How would you find out the best way of adjusting the coilovers, struts, and camberkits????????

 

Take it to a shop who knows what they are doing...



-Ted

 

I personally think cars that are "slammed" just look plain stupid. I mean, doing that to a car serves NO practical purpose. I like the look of FC's lowered an inch, maybe inch and a half. Think of the fastest, best handling cars in the world....Ferrari, Porsche, McLaren, etc. Are they "slammed"? NO! They are designed with little else in mind other than maximum performance, and if slamming them made them faster then they would be that way from the factory. To slam your car down until the damn tires are up inside the fenders will only break suspension components and make you look like every other 16 year old redneck cruising through the Sonic in their "slammed" 1989 primer gray Nissan pick-up. keep in mind this is just my opinion, I have always been of the mind in the whole "Rice" debate that what people do to their own cars is their business. But what cars and people I choose to laugh at is my buisness.

 

IMO, on a car that handles as well as an FC with a fresh *stock* suspension, anything short of coil overs with matched dampers is a waste and probably won't help your handling enough to be worth the price.

I'm sure there's a good combination of standard springs and dampers out there, but you have to be careful when shopping.

 

Yeah so ya wanna lower your 7? Not really recommended especially considering the crazy setup these cars had in the back which was all self adjusting. Unless your going just for looks lowering your car is going to make it actually handle worse in many respects than stock. I agree with whoever else said that a 7 with a fresh stock suspension will handle great. Why don't you first try some firmer struts such as Koni's or Tokico's and try that? Your triaxial floating hub will thank you.