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Old 01-31-05, 09:43 PM
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Arrow spacer behind flywheel?

ok im doing the auto to 5-sp swap and i was putting my flywheel on and as i was tighting it down it got stuck the flywheel would not turn is there a spacer that goes behind the flywheel against the block?87 gxl,89-90 flywheel
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Stock flywheel?
No.
The mating surface on the eccentric shaft is taper fit.
Mazda torque spec is close to *400* lb-ft.
The flywheel is NOT all the way down.
If you look behind the flywheel, you'll see a little bit of space.


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ok i torqed it down and now my starter turns very very slow im scared its going to burn up what should i do?it feels like its benn tightened down too much.
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oh and my starter is good i just had it checked ...any info guys ..thanks
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Isn't it bad to use a s5 flywheel on a s4 car due to the counterweights built into the flywheel?
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i dont know noone said anything is it...oohh shoot now im worried!
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**** if thats the case ill trade anyone for an 87 5-sp flywheel for my 87 auto AND driveshaft both work perfect this car needs to be done by friday!
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theres a difference in weight.

You have to match the flywheel series with the engine series, not flywheel series with tranny series.

Example, I have an s5 car, s5 engine, but when I did the swap I bought a s4 tranny and flywheel, consequently I had to find a s5 flywheel...
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87 5-sp 89 flywheel....

would that cause it to get stuck?.....lucky me i had a feeling this was going to happen and didnt torqe it down to 300lbs but close.
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Forgive me for asking this question. Are you trying to use the flywheel that was with the automatic transmission. Don't hurl bricks, please.
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no i removed the flexplate and put on a 89 flywheel.the car is a 87 and the flywheel is stuck wondering if i used the wrong wheel.
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http://www.mazdatrix.com/b5.htm this page explains the relationship of the built in counterweights in the factory flywheels and the rotating assy.

You've the wrong flywheel on there, but it should have fit the same as a 87 flywheel. Just an opinion. Never done that type swapping of flywheels. I've no idea why it won't turn in a normal manner.
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Stupid question.... but did you also take the auto- counterweight off the shaft when you took the flexplate off??????????? should have came off with the flexplate.... but just trying to eliminate all posibilities....
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yep took the counter weight off too,
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Did you put a turbo or N/A flywheel in there??? They are different...
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its an n/a
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Originally Posted by rotorman85
no i removed the flexplate and put on a 89 flywheel.the car is a 87 and the flywheel is stuck wondering if i used the wrong wheel.
OOPS


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a) wrong flywheel

b) did the key slip out and get smashed between the flywheel and the rear housing?

either would cause some issues...
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I think automatic starter is different than manual.....
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i don't think it is possible to bolt on a 5 speed starter to a manual transmission, the solenoid is on the top vs the bottom.

but then again i never tried....
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about the key very interesting i really dont have an answer for that one tomarrow imm going to pull the tranny out and take a look.
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about the starter yea it bolted on and the solinoid was on top....wow maybe i got myself into something here if thats the case thats the starter that came with that transmission.

oh and i found another flywheel its off an 87 gtu ill take a pic tomarrow you guys wont believe this **** this gtu is mint freaking condition with crome balony cutter wheels great interior and new tires just sitting in the junk yard .
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Originally Posted by rotorman85
87 5-sp 89 flywheel....

would that cause it to get stuck?.....lucky me i had a feeling this was going to happen and didnt torqe it down to 300lbs but close.

to answer this question for you as well:

no it won't get stuck, it would cause a vibration but the engine would still run fine which is why i said to check the key, it can be very easy to push the key out of it's groove and jam it against either the e-shaft or the rear stationary gear. i would not suggest cranking the engine any more until you remove the flywheel though.

if it is the starter that came with the transmission then you should be fine, just swap out the flywheel and inspect the key to be sure it is placed properly.

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Old 02-02-05, 08:11 PM
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wow thanks you know i dont think i would have thought of that...ill check it as soon as i can and let you guys know.is it possible to put the key in after the flywheel goes on?that way it doesnt get stuck. great now i have renewed faith...thanks guys ill let ya know.


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