2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

So it seems Im not burning oil, OMP failure???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-01-08, 09:36 PM
  #1  
Powered By Trochoids

Thread Starter
 
Mindspin311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Philly | PA
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So it seems Im not burning oil, OMP failure???

So Its been about 2200mi since I last had my oil change. I went out to add some oil to the car since Im driving 400 miles tomorrow. I checked the dipstick level and it appears to not have moved since I did the oil change.

I have new OMP lines and they appear to be empty with no oil. Now I know the S5 OMP is electric, so it injects when it determines.

My question is, if the OMP was not working, and not injecting oil, would I know?

I was always under the impression that if the OMP failed you would go into limp mode and definitely know. Is it possible that it can fail but not force the car into limp mode? I have noticed no loss of performance in the motor.

I think I will add some premix in tomorrow before I start off just to be sure.
Old 07-02-08, 07:08 AM
  #2  
Powered By Trochoids

Thread Starter
 
Mindspin311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Philly | PA
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
no one can answer this? i feel like icemark would know the answer
Old 07-02-08, 10:31 AM
  #3  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Craiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 568
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mindspin311
So Its been about 2200mi since I last had my oil change. I went out to add some oil to the car since Im driving 400 miles tomorrow. I checked the dipstick level and it appears to not have moved since I did the oil change.
You should have noticed some oil movement in the engine by now. Did you overfill the oil originally? If so it could just be geting down to where it should be by this point (it would have had to be fairly overfilled for this).

I have new OMP lines and they appear to be empty with no oil. Now I know the S5 OMP is electric, so it injects when it determines.

My question is, if the OMP was not working, and not injecting oil, would I know?
Usually, the ECU will detect some kind of incorrect reading throught the OMP circut and realise that something is wrong and illuminate the check engine light; and in the case of the OMP it will also put the car in limp mode.

I was always under the impression that if the OMP failed you would go into limp mode and definitely know. Is it possible that it can fail but not force the car into limp mode? I have noticed no loss of performance in the motor.

I think I will add some premix in tomorrow before I start off just to be sure.
I'm sure there are cases where the OMP has failed without the ECU noticing. No failsafe is perfect. For your trip, definitely use premix in your fuel at a 100:1 mix ratio and continue to use that untill you can confirm that your OMP is working again.
Old 07-02-08, 10:31 AM
  #4  
FD Daily

iTrader: (26)
 
K-Tune's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 3,308
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
ive seen enough fuel blowby to compensate for the oil level lost due to the OMP.

what does your oil smell like?
Old 07-02-08, 12:42 PM
  #5  
Powered By Trochoids

Thread Starter
 
Mindspin311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Philly | PA
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Havent checked that, I know it does happen on my motor, but not sure how much haha

Ill add some premix before I head out and mess with it next weekend when Im back in town.
Old 07-02-08, 03:20 PM
  #6  
HAILERS

 
HAILERS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: FORT WORTH, TEXAS,USA
Posts: 20,563
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
If someone rebuilt the engine and did not use a gasket for the front cover, but used RTV instead, it's possible the RTV is blocking the oil passage from the front side housing to the front cover.

Or can't you take a 10mm size wrench and loosen one of the four injector lines at the OMP, then go for a ride for a quarter hour or more, then look to see if oil has been coming out of that loosened line? Yes.
Old 07-02-08, 10:47 PM
  #7  
TANSTAFL

iTrader: (13)
 
alexdimen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Richmond, Va.
Posts: 3,770
Received 123 Likes on 82 Posts
Originally Posted by FBDrifter
ive seen enough fuel blowby to compensate for the oil level lost due to the OMP.

what does your oil smell like?
I have too. That and overfilling a little can make it seem like it isn't losing any. Definitely pre-mix while you figure it out. Haynes and the FSM both have the OMP test in them.
Old 07-03-08, 03:27 AM
  #8  
wikdclwn
 
wikdclwn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: California
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
help

i have a s5 turbo but had to convert it to s4
due to miscommunication, the s4 omp manual
and the s5 is electric. is there any way to make this work??
Old 07-03-08, 09:44 AM
  #9  
Clean.

iTrader: (1)
 
ericgrau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 2,521
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
OP: Did you notice the same thing before the oil change? Maybe you just added too much oil when you did your oil change. For now you could just premix 1 oz of 2 stroke oil per gallon of gas every fill up, just in case, to make sure you have lubrication. Then keep checking the oil level over the next 2000 miles.

There's also a procedure to test the OMP in the Haynes manual and I'll bet in the factory service manual (FSM) too, which you can download from a link in the FAQ.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
stickmantijuana
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
13
01-09-18 11:19 AM
tiger18
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
9
09-03-15 08:27 PM
rotor_veux
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
5
09-03-15 07:10 PM



Quick Reply: So it seems Im not burning oil, OMP failure???



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:49 PM.