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Old 07-23-09, 11:05 PM
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So how would you mount these canards I have?

So I have these canards,

http://www.more-japan.com/product.ph...7&cat=0&page=1


I was wondering how some of you would go about trying to mount these. I have somewhat of an idea but I'd like to see if there are better ways.

I was thinking getting some L shaped brackets and riveting into the canard on one side and then screwing it into the bumper on the other. Oh, and the outer lip is supposed to be on the outside so its not for mounting.

http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/2...723/205332.jpg

the red part I circled is the part that does not touch the car.
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haha sorry i had too ,,, maybe make a carbon "L" piece ?
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Not halping!
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Yes, they are usually screwed, bolted, or riveted to L-brackets on production-type race cars, but street ricers usually use double-sided tape or some other type of adhesive. Screw & bolt mounting shown here:
http://www.turboneonstore.com/custom...?productid=359

Try to mount them at exactly the same angle on each side of the car.
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hope you didnt pay 175 for that

BTW, it is impossible to increase downforce and reduce drag at the same time... you can reduce lift and reduce drag at the same time but these wont do that, Hope ou only got them frlooks, and for a deep deep discount.

They just sold you some scrap CF for a whole bunch of loot
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i hope you didnt pay $175 for those
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Originally Posted by ATRON3000
hope you didnt pay 175 for that

BTW, it is impossible to increase downforce and reduce drag at the same time... you can reduce lift and reduce drag at the same time but these wont do that, Hope ou only got them frlooks, and for a deep deep discount.

They just sold you some scrap CF for a whole bunch of loot
Haha yeah I know, I didn't get them to reduce drag lol.


and what if I did buy it at full price because I'm a baller!?
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Yes, they are usually screwed, bolted, or riveted to L-brackets on production-type race cars, but street ricers usually use double-sided tape or some other type of adhesive. Screw & bolt mounting shown here:
http://www.turboneonstore.com/custom...?productid=359

Try to mount them at exactly the same angle on each side of the car.

Ok cool thats what I was planning to do. I wonder if APR would sell me just the mounting stuff they use on their canards.
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I'd rather do a front splitter than buy little wings!
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Originally Posted by MaczPayne
I'd rather do a front splitter than buy little wings!

Im doing both. This isn't my street car. :P
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ill snap pics for you of the ones i made from an old fg bumper and L brackets i cut out of a square aluminum tube. $Free.99 adds a lil character to the everyday gp front. Mine are pretty small though.
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Originally Posted by Hypertek
ill snap pics for you of the ones i made from an old fg bumper and L brackets i cut out of a square aluminum tube. $Free.99 adds a lil character to the everyday gp front. Mine are pretty small though.


ok cool thanks. Yeah these ones are pretty huge, like over a foot long.
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Originally Posted by rommellikewhoa
Im doing both. This isn't my street car. :P
Although I do think those little canards will maybe help a little bit, a front splitter will help the most.

If you just want something simple and easy to replace, the 1988 10AE Bonneville salt flats RX-7 just had a clear piece of lexan fastened to the bottom of the front end at a 90deg angle to the relative wind (i.e. straight down). The car still looked pretty stock because the clear air dam was not very noticeable, it didn't really matter much if it got scuffed here and there, and it allowed the car to reach a speed of 191mph.
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Something like this but clear, Evil?
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Originally Posted by AGreen
Something like this but clear, Evil?
Yes, but they mounted it a bit higher on the car so that there was no seam between the dam and the front fascia. Also, they mounted it directly to the fascia with fasteners (no brackets) about every 2-3 inches, as opposed to the one in your picture which uses a couple of L-brackets to mount in what I assume are some of the original lip mounting holes. Basically, you have about the same thing, with the main difference being that the Bonneville 10AE probably worked slightly better, but yours allows the car to be easily returned to its original condition without any gaping holes in the front end.
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Originally Posted by ATRON3000
...it is impossible to increase downforce and reduce drag at the same time
That's exactly what I was thinking as I read the description... Nifty little advertising bit they have there. Sell these silly things to some other ricer (if you haven't already attached them) and spend the money on something worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Liltoflm
That's exactly what I was thinking as I read the description... Nifty little advertising bit they have there. Sell these silly things to some other ricer (if you haven't already attached them) and spend the money on something worthwhile.

Ugh you guys I just showed that link so you guys could see what I was talking about. We all know it doesn't reduce drag..

And no, I'm not selling them. Im making a track car, you know, on a track, not some autocross crap.
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Track and autocross are two different animals. Apples and oranges
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Originally Posted by AGreen
Something like this but clear, Evil?
I found a picture. It is pretty grainy, and a white car with a clear air dam doesn't exactly photograph well on the white salt flats, but here it is.

Wow, 191mph with no canards! Who would have thought it possible?
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Originally Posted by rommellikewhoa
And no, I'm not selling them. Im making a track car, you know, on a track, not some autocross crap.
Might be more useful on an auto-x car... canards give some downforce but at a huge drag penalty which is why they are usually the first thing removed from actual race cars at lower downforce tracks. You'll be way better off making a splitter and putting the things right in front of the wheels to try to keep air from entering the wheel well.
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Originally Posted by jdmsuper7
Might be more useful on an auto-x car... canards give some downforce but at a huge drag penalty which is why they are usually the first thing removed from actual race cars at lower downforce tracks. You'll be way better off making a splitter and putting the things right in front of the wheels to try to keep air from entering the wheel well.

I said up in the thread more that I am running a splitter also.


Enough of the debate. They are going on. Anyone have any actual ideas?
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*dont mind this old picture, ive cut up the fenders and made alot of fitment corrections on them

the L brackets are just cut outs from leftover square aluminum tubing i had from this project
http://i31.tinypic.com/mh3tk2.jpg

this would be my next project if i didnt have to drive the car all the time

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