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before i ask my questions...let me tell you WHY im asking...

Well..i was on my way home with my bro in the car and this unknown, nasty car was tail gating me...we got stopped on a light slightly uphill..(hes next to me)..its a full car with a bunch of teens..so light turns green...we go at it..i pull on him through 2nd..but at 3rd..he's gone....i was in shock....i wanted to crash into a tree or something...

SOOO..
I have a 88 vert and i want to get more power...I have about $3000-4000 to spend...should i go NA? do i have enough for anything else??

I used to have a spec-v... ::SIGH::..i wouldnt destroyed that nasty car...o well...

HEY!...................thanks for the help

Stanello

iTrader: (1)

Do a Turbo II swap. Not much is cooler than a turbo vert.

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yea..thats why i bought the car...but i called Mazcare (these people know what they are talking about)..And they told me to do that swap itll be almost $7000....and i know that people here have done it for A LOT cheaper.....but im still new to all this and i have NO idea where to start...I know there are plenty of sites where i can get info....but i look at it and my brain just stops working...

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i got another question...I dont really want to deal with the whole turbo swap..(too much to do) UNLESS...thats the oly way to get decent gains...

If i were to stay NA...what could i do? just exhaust and headers? anything else?

MARTIN

4k is about what you are gunna spend, if you really want to do it right. 1k for the motor and about 1500 for a rebuild. Then misc things really add up.

Stanello

iTrader: (1)

N/As are harder to get decent power out of. With most simple bolt-on mods, it will be hard to make much over 160-180hp to the wheels. If you rebuild, port it generously, and go with a standalone ecu, you can make decent power. Around 180-220hp, depending on the porting done.

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I see...interesting....VERY interesting.....But when you said "simple bolt-on mods"..which mods do you mean? 160-180 whp is good enough for now..you know? -.-atleast id beat that car.....and how much would i be looking at?

And if it costs 4000 for the parts for the turbo swap...i still gotta pay for labor..there is no way i can do it myself...i dont have the correct tools and space...

but hey, i really appreciate your responses.............REALLY really

ilike2eatricers

sell your vert and buy a t2.

MapOfTaziFoSho

Triple black turbo vert.

Mindspin311

Mazcare wants $7k cause their labor rate is rediclous, BUT you will probably not find a better rotary mechanic in the Atlanta area.

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you know...i was actually wanting to do that...but there are 0 TII in my area..::SIGH::....Any other options? Anything i can do THIS week? You know...any quick bolt ons or what not?

Thanks again for your helpS...im not used to such nice forums........so......thanks...again?

Mindspin311

Im at TII in your area but Im away at school, I live in Acworth, went to HS at Harrison.

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O by the way....does an exhaust system help alot? I really want exhaust, but i still dont know if im going to go turbo. I would need bigger piping. If exhaust makes a big difference i may just buy one now..and if i ever go turbo, buy another. What do you guys think?

THANKS!!!!

|)@71|)

O really? I recently graduated from Pope HS..i know some people who went to Harrison. Are you ever gunna be in the area? By the way, thanks for your comments. They are MUCH appreciated.

-David

89gtufc3s

1 week isnt much time at all to gain decent power....but if you want to be getto about it just take off the cat and everything behind it...lol...but thats hella rice IMO

Garoad

Rotary Engines respond better to intake and exhaust mods but i heard you wont see much higher numbers unless your turbo'd.

MARTIN

Im not talking about parts, 1500 is what it basically costs to rebuild the motor according to kevin landers. 1k more or less for the motor. You could cut your cost by not rebuilding the motor, but its up to you and how much you worry about reliability. AFter that you need someone to put the motor in, which will typically cost you anywhere from 200-400 plus the wiring and stuff. Unless you want to run standalone which is highly recommended even on a stock motor. You can pick up a MT for about $700 used or $850 brand new shipped from AUSSIE. You can see how close you are cutting it with these essential things. Of course you can either run it with the stock ecu which would cost you alot less, and also not choose to rebuild it. But you wont be doing it right. Of course using the turboII ecu and harness is a good idea, but if you arent gunna do it yourself its gunna cost about the same.

Stanello

iTrader: (1)

The best thing to do to an N/A is to let it flow more. Put an intake, header, and as straight through exaust as you can stand. Those are the most bang for the buck mods for the N/A.

If you're just interested in making power, turbo is the way to go.

Mindspin311

I wont be back for a decent amount of time till Thanksgiving, and Im not that much a professional rotary mechanic, Im still learning.

ilike2eatricers

putting money for bolts on into an NA rotary wont get you very far. Not being mean but that's the truth.... especially with the heaviest rx7 ever made... the vert. You'd be better off selling your vert and using the money you would have dumped into the vert to find a decent t2 even if you to look farther than local.

WonkoTheSane

iTrader: (2)

I know landers does swaps for people, though it sounds like that guy's been going nuts lately http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ check that out, he's saying he can do a swap to a Turbo II for 3500 (including his parts). Though it'll be a bit of a wait according to the main page, that seems like the best bet for you, and then you'd go LOTS faster than any N/A mod you can do

DocMazda

agreed...especially if you have about 3-4k to spend right now for mods. If you sell your vert, you should EASILY pick up a good running tII some where outside your area definitely reliable enough to drive back to your destination. but, if you wanted to do some of your own customization, then i would probly look into getting some thing close to stock as possible. even a couple of states away isnt too bad. Hell, i had to tow mine back from chattanooga, tennessee...i like in TULSA, OKLAHOMA!! that **** wasnt fun either, but ive loved the car ever since! only cost me 650 though.

MapOfTaziFoSho

Why not get a junked TII and swap the drivetrain over?

2slow4stock

iTrader: (18)

Why not just do a rebuild and do a n/a turbo with the porting also.

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Haha, i know i may sound desperate, but im not THAT desperate....YET..hehe..Thanks for your help though
I see, what kind of number WOULD i be seeing tho? Thanks for your input my friend
OOOo i see...well i really want to be turboed, but at the same tiem i guess i dont have enough money for a reliable swap..how do all the other guys do it so cheap and still survive? Thanks for your help

I think thats what im gunna do for now. Thanks for your advice
Alright, well until then i guess ill just look around for some TIIs..hehe..thanks
Damn...thats depressing..but there is still potential right?..i hope....im so confused on what i should do...but thanks alot for helping out
YAY!! i guess there is hope AFTERALL...but i still need to decide..But thanks ALOT!
Thats something i need to look into..not a bad idea tho...Thanks man