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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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The best thing to do to an N/A is to let it flow more. Put an intake, header, and as straight through exaust as you can stand. Those are the most bang for the buck mods for the N/A.
That's pretty much what I'm planning on doing. Down the line, once I've gained more knowledge on my car and actually buy the Haynes manual, I'm going Supercharger. I like superchargers. But first...the Steet RB full exhaust setup....and a new paint job.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MapOfTaziFoSho
Why not get a junked TII and swap the drivetrain over?
What do i do then? im sorry man, but pretend your talking to a blind guy that knows nothing about the RX-7...i hope that didnt offend anyone...but thats where im at...Thanks though.
Originally Posted by 2slow4stock
Why not just do a rebuild and do a n/a turbo with the porting also.
I was actually wondering about that..how exactly would i go about doing that? And about how much would it cost? Is it reliable? SOrry for all the stupid questions..but thanks ALOT
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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That's pretty much what I'm planning on doing. Down the line, once I've gained more knowledge on my car and actually buy the Haynes manual, I'm going Supercharger. I like superchargers. But first...the Steet RB full exhaust setup....and a new paint job.
Whoa whoa WHOA...there are superchargers out for the RX-7? I must be REALLY dumb. I bought the Haynes book...it helps...if you know what your doing..(i dont)..hehe..i would really appreciate it if you could let me know more about the supercharger..thanks
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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The superchargers kit they're probably talking about is the Camden kit, which flat out sucks. Don't waste your money. Go turbo, either by getting a new car, turboing your current engine, or doing a swap. And $7k for a turbo swap is just stupid, I don't care how good of a rotary mechanic it is, that's just flat insane.

And don't be embarassed, there's nothing fast about a non-turbo RX7, and for that matter, nothing all too fast about most turbo rx7's either.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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so my options are....
1. Go NA...intake, header, exhaust..i wont get too much power, 160-180 WHP
2. TII swap
3. Turbo NA

What would YOU do??
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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The superchargers kit they're probably talking about is the Camden kit, which flat out sucks. Don't waste your money. Go turbo, either by getting a new car, turboing your current engine, or doing a swap. And $7k for a turbo swap is just stupid, I don't care how good of a rotary mechanic it is, that's just flat insane.

And don't be embarassed, there's nothing fast about a non-turbo RX7, and for that matter, nothing all too fast about most turbo rx7's either.
Ok..so scratch the supercharger idea...about about the $7000 swap being crap (Which i was hoping it was) how else could i get it done for cheaper? i cant do it myself. Do i go out and look for used parts? you see, im really REALLY dumb about this stuff...no joke...so you gotta walk me through it.....(without "big" words please..hehe)..THANKS!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindspin311
buy a TII
Could i buy yours? PLEASE...ill pay you cash...as long as its not too expensive...hehe...im just kidding..but if your truly willing to sell it...HELL yea ill buy it...WITH cash....thanks
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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Could i buy yours? PLEASE...ill pay you cash...as long as its not too expensive...hehe...im just kidding..but if your truly willing to sell it...HELL yea ill buy it...WITH cash....thanks
Car is not for sale.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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Car is not for sale.
hehe..i figured....well..if you hear of any TIIs for sale in the area (whenever your down here)...please let me know..ill be looking..thanks though
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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save up the extra 3 or 4K and have MAZCARE do it, you wont regret it
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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save up the extra 3 or 4K and have MAZCARE do it, you wont regret it
thatll be almost a year...i know itll probably be worth it, i agree...but its such a LONG way...wut if i run into those punks again...and lose AGAIn....ill probably have a heart attack and die...thanks though
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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**** for 7K you could buy a 3rd gen..... You could rent garage space and do it yourself for less than half that cost. As it was said, $7k is just stupid.

Turbo it, either by doing a swap, paying someone competent that doesn't assrape you to do it, or doing it yourself.

Or, rebuild the engine in it now, do some porting, get your basic mods going, and then throw a turbo on your n/a block and throw in a TII driveline.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by |)@71|)
wut if i run into those punks again...and lose AGAIn....ill probably have a heart attack and die...thanks though
It's posts like this that generally make me not even bother helping people. Who cares if you lose, it's an RX7 convertible non-turbo, the thing runs at best a 16 stock, don't act so surprised to get beat. Even when you turbo it, it's not going to be anything spectacular and you're going to get beat by hideous ugly looking cars still. An rx7 isn't much of a street racing car, take your car and the other car to a road course and then see what they think afterwards.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
**** for 7K you could buy a 3rd gen..... You could rent garage space and do it yourself for less than half that cost. As it was said, $7k is just stupid.

Turbo it, either by doing a swap, paying someone competent that doesn't assrape you to do it, or doing it yourself.

Or, rebuild the engine in it now, do some porting, get your basic mods going, and then throw a turbo on your n/a block and throw in a TII driveline.
i hear ya man...7K...maybe not...

What do i need to do if i want to turbo the NA? sorry..but thanks
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Rebuild the current engine, get a decent management system (although you can use stock ECU's with an SAFC, though I'd suggest otherwise if you were halfway serious about having a somewhat decent car), install a decent size fuel pump, then either buy a kit to turbo it, or figure out a way of doing it yourself.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
It's posts like this that generally make me not even bother helping people. Who cares if you lose, it's an RX7 convertible non-turbo, the thing runs at best a 16 stock, don't act so surprised to get beat. Even when you turbo it, it's not going to be anything spectacular and you're going to get beat by hideous ugly looking cars still. An rx7 isn't much of a street racing car, take your car and the other car to a road course and then see what they think afterwards.
Hey man..didnt mean to **** you off...im just sayin ****...i mean, who likes to get beat? you know?..But hey man, sorry if this made you mad...but thanks for the comment and all your help
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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I don't get mad that easy, lol. I just get a little annoyed when people seem awe-struck when they find out that the rx7 really isn't a very fast vehicle (in a line, at least). Your best area for the car is flat-out a road course or a twisty road, but all the straight-line options have been already mentioned above so, if that's your choice, it's all there for you!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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I don't get mad that easy, lol. I just get a little annoyed when people seem awe-struck when they find out that the rx7 really isn't a very fast vehicle (in a line, at least). Your best area for the car is flat-out a road course or a twisty road, but all the straight-line options have been already mentioned above so, if that's your choice, it's all there for you!
O ok, you had me feelin pretty bad there man..but hey..i know its all written above...i really appreciate everyones opinions. ALthough i have a list of things i can do...i still dont know how to do it..or evern where to start..i guess thats what i really need right now...Thanks again buddy
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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Well, I'd start basic and just do a full complete tune-up (new plugs,wires,filters all around, etc), then if you want to turbo it, you need to start gathering the parts, but I'd suggest you rebuild your current block before putting a turbo on that. If you're doing a swap, just start buying the parts. In the meantime, you can put on a good catback, that'll benefit you in n/a or turbo form, and removing the cats/etc.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Just for the record: I own a Miata.. Once you go vert, it's hard to ditch it for a daily driver.. you can make of for a LOT of missing speed by putting the top down and going for a cruise ... especially when you could kick their asses in the twisties
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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I wish I could fit in a miata..... ok on second thought maybe I don't... Death trap sardine can on wheels!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Well, I'd start basic and just do a full complete tune-up (new plugs,wires,filters all around, etc), then if you want to turbo it, you need to start gathering the parts, but I'd suggest you rebuild your current block before putting a turbo on that. If you're doing a swap, just start buying the parts. In the meantime, you can put on a good catback, that'll benefit you in n/a or turbo form, and removing the cats/etc.
Hey now i just got one more question..(by the way...your helping me ALOT..thanks)..well i will soon go and get a tune up...ill probably go ahead and buy a cat back..but if i am planning on going turbo..wut size should i get right now...and also...how do i know WHAT i need to get..and WHERE i can get it...i know i can get a TII engine and tran at osakajdmengines...so if i were to go ahead and buy the engine and tran...how do i know what else i need? do i have to wait for the engine to arrive? i REALLY really am sorry for all these annoying questions. If it really bothers you, you dont have to answer..thanks ALOT SonicRat
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Well, if you do a full up TII swap, then it's pretty much straight forward. I'd go with a 3" inlet on the y-pipe and 2.5" to each muffler.

This website will pretty much tell you everything you need, under the Tech - N/A to TII section
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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so my options are....
1. Go NA...intake, header, exhaust..i wont get too much power, 160-180 WHP
2. TII swap
3. Turbo NA

What would YOU do??
This right here is a rather interesting question. See what i'd do if I were you and was so concerned about beating this dood is..ditch the car...buy a bike. But that's just me. Real question is what do you want in the long term? You have to realize that at its best, the FC is already gonna be at least 14 years old. Cars are being churned out from the factory with enough horsepower to not only leave your *** behind, but carry a full load of passengers, groceries, and a table set from IKEA all at the same time. Feel bad about being whipped by some punk in a modified car? How bout getting ur butt handed to you by some geezer who didn't even realize u were trying to race him (me on my way to the mall )

Anyway, I own a non-turbo rx-7 and although its not the fastest car on the road I still enjoy the car. I do all the work on this car myself..and to answer your question of how people can do a TII swap for so cheap..then thats the answer. Doing it yourself. That should be the motto of the 2nd Gen section.

Why am I doing this? Sure everyone wants a fast car. I do as well. I love and maintain my FC for training purposes. I'm training myself for an FD. Let's face it, when you talk about the rotary at its fastest, you're talking about an FD. Even more so when its a 3-rotor FD. I'd say my options at this point are more or less similar to yours, except mine are more "long term" goals than anything really.

You have:
1) modifying the n/a engine (which i don't recommend on a vert)
2) TII swap (turbo verts are AWESOME, but aren't the best for extreme speed)
3) trading your vert in for a tII (this would cost the same as a tII swap anyway..but u lose the cool "vert" part)
4) buying a hard-top, base model n/a and doing a turbo swap on that (much lighter body than a vert)
5) sucking it up for now and waiting till you can afford an FD.

I've chosen option 5. Thats my personal decision...i can probably find 5 people here who would disagree with me. Its your car man....its your decision. But the thing with these cars is the faster you make em, the less reliable they get. Take some time and think about this because you're putting a lot of money on the line either way.
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