On the 87 TII I just bought it has some form of sleepy eye mod done on it. It seems like they rigged something up electrically up near the headlights. I have taken a picture, its kinda blurry but you get the idea. He has some wires spliced into the plug for the headlight. I dont know if this helps but the headlights come on with the first click of the switch(not just the side markers). Im not good with electrical stuff just turning a wrench. Any help would be greatly appreciated in de-ricing my car. Thank you in advance.

The black wire and the red wire are cut have have new wires, wire nutted on them and ran directly to the back of the headlight if this helps

Here is the headlight side of the harness. The 2 blue wires are spliced into the red and black wires on the headlight plug. also pictured(on the left) is the harness that i believe is supposed to be connected to the headlight plug but there is more than 3 wires in it

 

So your lights always stay up?

Read the FSM electrical section for your year and reverse, if they always stay up they probably took the retractor fuse out or spliced it with a switch.

 

Yes my lights are always up regardless of the switch. and all the lights come on at the first click of the switch instead of just the side markers

 

Best thing you can do is do what Cmanns said and go through the whole wiring harness for the lights and just get rid of all the junk and try to rewire it to the wiring diagram in the FSM

 

thats what im going to do and i have the FSM downloaded but i cant tell if the large harness that is cut is supposed to go to the headlight plug. i have taken a picture of the two which i suspect should be reconnected im just want a little more confirmation. it is in the second picture, the harness and headlight plug of which i speak

 

I bought a parts car with sleepy eyes. Turned out that one of the retractor motors was shot. Rather than replacing it, they went for the sleepy look and disconnected the motors.

FSM should give you wire colors, so you can follow which is which.

Seems to me that it might make sense to just get rid of the blue wires and anything attached to them. Where the wire nuts are, just match colors and put the original wires back together. Unless there's something else going on that I don't see.

 

cool that makes sense, its been raining and not much time off from work ill reconnect what i can and report back

 

I wondered where all Our seattle rain went too... I guess now i know... Thanks for taking the weather. Enjoy

 

yeah we are getting even more today so it will be sunday by the time i get to actually work on it

 

Ok so i got in there and re connected the same colors and all that did is make neither one of my headlights work so i had to put it back the way it was. i took pictures of how it is setup to maybe give some insight. not pictured are the cut ends of black/orange and red/black. so if someone could take a look cause im stumped and i really hate the sleepy eye thing.

 

Ok from that picture, the part you said you can push there and raise/lower the headlights. The looks like a relay. Is that relay connected to any of the blue wires? Please take more pictures at different angles showing where all that is going.

When you removed all the blue wires and connected the same colors where you able to raise/lower the headlights with the cleaner switch or regular headlight switch? Did the side markers come on without the headlights on the first click when you did it this way? There has to be something you missed if you reconnected everything back to normal in there.

 

No, the relay is not connected to the blue wires at all. That relay is on the passenger side of the car and the blue wires were running to the driver's side headlight. On the passenger side just the stock wires are cut and are connected as I showed in the picture. No, once I connected all the same colors the headlights would not raise or lower and the actual lights would not turn on. All the lights came on after the first click even the side markers. I'm suspecting maybe I'm missing a fuse somewhere but I'm pretty sure I checked the retractor fuse in the engine bay. I'll take more pictures when I can. I'm at work now and it's like 100 degrees and I have no shade to work in. Sunday I will get out there early and once again reconnect all same color wires and see what happens when i click each switch. Thanks for the help, I really would like to un-rice my ride.

 

Take it to a reputable mechanic before you melt your harness though out your whole car

 

Well a relay should not "activate" by being touched. I suspect you have a "short" or bad wire or bad relay really close around there. Thats probably why you didn't see anything happen when you reconnected all the wires due to your "touch activated" relay. Reconnect everything back to normal, check that relay. Thats probably why you are not getting power.

You said it does this for the passenger side, check the drivers side for the same symptom and wiring. Also as long as you don't mix and match wires and have the battery disconnected you won't burn up your harness.

From what I understood when you first reconnected everything, sidemarker lights worked on first click, not headlights on second click correct?