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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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A simple question

Ok folks, doing some regrounding, and a question arose I think I know the answer to, but wanted to get confirmation:

On the super grounding article in the archive:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-archive-72/super-grounding-256429/

It says to go from the battery, to the bolt behind the oil filter. To me it looks like that bolt connects the engine to the tranny. Do I need to brace or jack anything in order to get that bolt out of there to replace that ground cable?
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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I hate making assumptions people, but I'll have to assume that it's a no. Let me know if I'm wrong, PLEASE?!
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:36 AM
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That grounding article is anything but "super"...

Read this instead:

http://aaroncake.net/RX-7/grounding.htm
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Damn, beat me to it...I've been meaning to add a note to the top of the Archived grounding topic saying how much it sucks, but some might consider it just a promotion of my (good) article...
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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well, the reason I asked was, when the last owner had the engine ported, whoever back it in, must've viewed that article, because that's where the primary ground is located, as well as the other ground that article talked about. I'll go ahead a few things.

But I'm going to assume I can remove that bolt, and redo that ground.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Damn, beat me to it...I've been meaning to add a note to the top of the Archived grounding topic saying how much it sucks, but some might consider it just a promotion of my (good) article...
I think it's better. And since I do, that's all that matters. POST IT!
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Anyway, the gnd for the cable that comes from the battery I believe originaly went to the long bolt that holds the starter on. IF it is going to a bolt that is above that starter bolt, I doubt if it matters at all which place, except keep in mind that the starter carries/pulls more amps than anything else on the car.

And if the other bolts are still connectin the engine to the transmission, you don't have to jack/shim/whatever anything. Just remove the gnd wire and put it where the factory had it in the first place making sure there's no gunk/oil b/t the mating surfaces and it's bolted down good.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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OK, I need to say something here. I understand what everyone is saying in how that is not the best spot for a ground and what not, and that I should run the ground to the designated locations (such as the starter, shock tower, etc.).

However, as I clarified in a response, the ground is running to that bolt specified in that article posted above. And since no one answered the question I ASKED, I'll ask it again: can I remove that bolt, and take that ground (that's there) off without harming anything?

I will do the grounds as specified, but I need the answer to THIS question.

As I said before, I hate making assumptions, and since I am a novice, I'd rather have someone who knows what they're doing give me the answer, than do something stupid and screw my car up.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by phound69
OK, I need to say something here. I understand what everyone is saying in how that is not the best spot for a ground and what not, and that I should run the ground to the designated locations (such as the starter, shock tower, etc.).

However, as I clarified in a response, the ground is running to that bolt specified in that article posted above. And since no one answered the question I ASKED, I'll ask it again: can I remove that bolt, and take that ground (that's there) off without harming anything?

I will do the grounds as specified, but I need the answer to THIS question.

As I said before, I hate making assumptions, and since I am a novice, I'd rather have someone who knows what they're doing give me the answer, than do something stupid and screw my car up.
So... wait... you're asking if you can take a ground off and have everything be peachy?

Or do you mean while working on it? Sure you can remove it while working on the car. Of course, the first thing you should do when working on your car period is unhook the battery.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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So... wait... you're asking if you can take a ground off and have everything be peachy?

Or do you mean while working on it? Sure you can remove it while working on the car. Of course, the first thing you should do when working on your car period is unhook the battery.
If I read his first post correctly, he wants to know if he needs to jack anything up or support anything to safely remove the bolt. (which I, sadly, don't know)

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Ah. Just take the bolt out of the starter with a wrench, remove the ground, put on the new ground, and replace the bolt. Depending on where the ground is, you may have to remove the starter.

Other than that, the only thing you have to place a jack on, is the car.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kel
If I read his first post correctly, he wants to know if he needs to jack anything up or support anything to safely remove the bolt. (which I, sadly, don't know)

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Thank you kel for reading the question (completely) and responding with an actual answer to the question.

And, yes, that is in a tone of frustration. Not towards you kel, but everyone else who responded. After all, we're not politicians here, we're (mechanical) tech supporters. So a clear, concise answer is all that I need, then point me in the right direction please. (It's what I did for every customer I had while I worked computer & internet support.)

Now, I checked out the part involved, and there are two bolts, one on either side, of the block. I have not looked at the underside, as I need to get to sleep now.

So, should I throw a jack under the part in question, while I unhook that bolt, or can I leave it unbraced?

Once again, I appreciate any REAL help you can provide, and all indirect help that you HAVE.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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If you're talking about the bolt in the starter, you're fine. There's 4 other bolts holding the tranny/engine together.

But, if for some fluke reason it doesn't work, I take no responsibility.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Thank you as well my5.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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not the starter. so cool. I'll do that in the morning after work.
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