redFC3Sboy

Oh yeah its a 87 N/A thats for $600. It needs a new engine. You know how freaking shops take apart the whole engine and just put it in the trunk, thats what they did. I am just buying a new engine instead of fooling with the N/A engine. Sorry about not making much sense in a couple early posts on this thread. I suck at typing. I was also probably rushing.
I hate when people don't type right. Also what is an FCD.

gerbraldy

man,.... I love my rx7's but an s14 would be sweet with an rb25det. I'd say get a s14.5 which looks way better than a silvia s15 front, and throw that rb25, if you got the $$ and the know how, then go for the rb swap.

F.T.P. rotaryrocket

so what your saying is your going to either buy a n/a rx7 for 600 hundred bucks and drop a t2 motor into it or get a newer 240 and drop a skyline motor in it

if so the t2 swap will cost atleast 300 dollars granted nothing else needs to be fixed because you'll need a whole new driveline as well.

the 240 on the other hand there drive line can take and excess of 3 or 400 hundred hp, but a skyline motor itself jspec imported from japan with no intercoolerwill cost you atleast 3500 hundred dollars for the rb25det alone and then atleast another 800 dollars shipping, keep in mind you still don't have an IC or the piping for it. so all in all an rb25det swap will cost you around 10,000-12000 dollars. but if you plan on doing it more power too you but my point is if you are going to spend that much money why not just go and get the rb26dett motor with a rwd tranny. the 240 tranny with a little fabrication should bolt up i think it's like 1.5 inches to short or something like that. but that whole job will be like 15000
big ones.

so the most feasible obtion would be get the rx7 and invest all the money you were going to invest on the 240 and have one sick *** rx7 or just go buy an fd.

so your options are have the fastest drag car around for an assload of money
or have the best domestic cornering machine and a decent drage car for a decent amount of money that my .2

F.T.P. rotaryrocket

sorry i meant 3000 dollars for t2 swap

xvampyrex

no offense to the little kid but I agree with what some people have said. He is too young to handle that much power. He is just dreaming like I was when I was that age. I mean Im only 17 and Im just now getting used to more power. Again no offense to the kid but he probably has never driven a bike like he said he did. Maybe went in the passenger while the car was going over 100 but I doubt he was driving that either. He probably is just another rich boy who is going to get a cool and fast car from his rich *** parents so he can be cool to his friends. He will -=knock on wood=- (and I hope it doesnt happen) speed too much and wreck the car by showing off to friends. I've seen that happen. You should do what Santiago said and

-Luis
Thats my 2 cents which probably dont matter....

ilike2eatricers

If you have enough money to buy an s14 and do a rb swap you might as well just buy a modded out mint condition t2. It's not worth it to do an jspec swap when you have to do the whole drivetrain as well.

rs_1101

yea good call. personally i enjoy a slightly slower car anyways. gives you more chance to learn with the car. but i dont like the idea of a 6 shooter in an s13.. its overkill. and i shouldnt have to bitch about the weight distribution with a i6 motor. 4 bangers all teh way!! woowoo

gxlspeeder

Get an NA RX7 for your first car. I guarentee you'll be more than pleased with the speed. I was in the same boat two years ago (15 years old). Got my GXL from my grandpa who daily drove it since 86. I got that thing and hot rodded around everywhere, I thought it was the fastest thing on wheels. Then the engine blew.... Got a job and saved up for my Turbo II. Work your way up. Its the right way to do things. And btw for all you guys that say younger guys can't drive powerful cars, 13.6 with a 1.90 60ft and only 17 years old :0

Fritz_X

iTrader: (1)

So could a lot of other, forum members, before they died in their cars. These were people in their early twenties to late fifties.

I don't mean to sound like a party pooper, but a 15 year old saying they can control high power, is less than humorous. It is flat out dangerous, and you admitting that you have gone more than 120 miles per hour on a highly dangerous motorcycle, on roads that hypothetically I could be sharing with you, simply astounding, it's NOT always just your life you take in your hands when driving like an idiot.

Get a License.

Get a Job.

Finish School.

Get your head out of the clouds.

Take a driving course.

Refrain from early teenage death.

Don't ask an RX-7 CLUB whether you should get the car their board is dedicated to, or some frankensteined Nissan that you likely.

A.) Don't have the funds to build.

B.) Don't have the resources to allocate if such said funds did exist.

C.) Don't have the mechanical ability to assemble even half of it on your own.

D.) Will continue having wet dreams about due to your unecessarily large collection of Super Street, Import Tuner, and Boosted magazines, even if the car is never built.

So in summary, please stop wasting forum space with this hypothetical nonsense and just wait till you actually have your license, before you start dreaming about being Dominique or Brian.

--Fritz

Fritz_X

iTrader: (1)

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=127436
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-archives-73/pictures-fatal-wreck-128737/
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=211161
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=215332
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=127032

Just a few, there are tons if you are just looking to see accidents. It's not hard to get the idea. BTW Please do not bump any of these threads, leave them alone as people hate it when these things resurface.

--Fritz

redFC3Sboy

I am not to little. And it will be about 3 years before I get the swap. Theres the money right there it will not cost that much. Lots of the guys on the 240sxclub.com, use the Infinity J30 driveline. And I have done my research and it will cost less than 5K. You dont know what you are talking about. You think just because its an skyline engine it has to be super exspensive. GUESS what it is not. Check your arguments before you try to make someone fell like a jackass. And yes it comes white the whole engine parts intercooler and all.

Wankels-Revenge

Ok now i didn't read every post in this thread but from my understanding ur options were an n/a fc and a 240 that u wanna put an rb25 in?

Now i used to be heavily into 240's. Actually before i got my n/a fc i was making the EXACT same choice as u...except i wanted a vg30 in my 240
Anyway, have u considered the option of taking the ka24 and just turboing it up? It'll be a **** load cheaper than doing an rb25 swap (which probably won't be as cheap as most people make it out to be), and it can produce some serious hp as well. Even though u gotta modify the head pretty heavily, thats also another option u may wanna throw into the mix.

Obviously my opinion is gonna be biased, but i'd go with the fc. If anything i'd advise u to not get this $600 n/a and just wait for a nice s5 tII or something. Not that im ragging on s4's (i own an 87 n/a myself). Its just that an s5 tII will get to 300 hp a little easier. I also personally like the feel of an rx-7 better than the s13 240. The seating position is a little nicer (IMO) and the shifter feels much more direct. I've driven both.

sa22c_Drifter

First off. The RB series engines are used for drifting. Mckynnie motorsports uses an RB25DET powered s13 as they're drift car.

Second. An "S14.5" is an s14 chassis with the front end of an s15, so how can an s14.5 front end look better than that of an s15.

Third. "execpt I wanted a vg30 in my 240", the engine sucks *** and it has no place in a silvia chassis. One of the only true arguments that i've ever read on "super street" was that of editor and writer Ricky Chu. The guy dies next to the fact that the best engine you can swap in a silvia chassis is the sr20det, and he's absolutely right, everyone these days that wants to swap anything else other than that into they're 240, doesn't know **** about tuning silvias or "building" drift cars, or drag cars for that matter. The're just newbies, that have jumped on the 240sx bandwagon.

As for the kid who started the thread, start reading sport compact car, those are the only guys with they're heads on they're shoulders in the whole "sport compact magazine" business. And one more thing, don't just build a car for xxx amount of horsepower, build the car for a purpose and then think about horspower and engine swaps. A car's horsepower doesn't tell a car's performance.

Camlinae

I believe Kel is right even htough your on an rx forum and if you posted a poll you would get almost 100% on the rx there is a reason for it and Kel said it. The handling of an rx is superior to most stock cars because of the weight distribution within the car is damn close to a 50/50 split. The other car you mentioned is definatly going to be front heavy and this will give the car some understeering qualities (it may be over but i'm pretty sure it would be under) thus making the car a bit more dangerous and until you have more experience driving cars i would highly suggest the rx.

Also don't aim for a hp mark for the car. I'm only 19 and i have learnt this lesson. You first have to be able to control the car with little power and make steps from there. If you were to take a 200hp car you have been driving for a long time then make it 500 it isn't going to be the same car anymore. It won't handle the same and you will most likly be afraid of it at some points of driving it. Your best off to leave it stock for a year or so and make upgrades slowly until your confidence and skill (don't be cocky about it though) are good enough to handle the jump of power.

this is just my 2 cents

cheesecake

I think what SA22c dirfter said is right. Im 16 and i have driven several high-power cars, 500hp vette, 400hp vette, hell my dads f-350 is doing 350hp. Both those vettes are pretty hard to control, i could definitly take them both on a less than straight road with my rx7 (when it runs) I think your dreaming bout power levels and as it has been said serval times cars arent the same with that much power. Id be surprised if you have auctually ridden that gsxr1k or even redline it in any gear, any if you were going to say you can handle power on a bike mabye you should say youve done 150. 85 on a bike is just cruising, ive been riding all my life-i know. I dont thinks youve done that much research, you want to buy and sa NA with no motor for $600? thats BS, Id be happy to sell a running GXL for that much. Cars like that can be found for free everywhere.

chris_stampe

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rs_110:1 yea good call. personally i enjoy a slightly slower car anyways. gives you more chance to learn with the car. but i dont like the idea of a 6 shooter in an s13.. its overkill. and i shouldnt have to bitch about the weight distribution with a i6 motor. 4 bangers all teh way!! woowoo

^are you serious? That is just gay.

Get the fastest car you possibly can. Id go for the 240 for reliability, but the 7 will be cheaper and ultimately just as fast.

Rocky071

It seems that you're changing your argument, your 'options' as to what car you'll get, and your facts, every post redFC3Sboy. Anyway.

From what I hear, putting a Skyline engine into a 240SX is a lot of work, it's costly, and it's troublesome. A lot of people have had difficulty keeping the 240SX running well with the Skyline engine, especially as a daily driver. It seems that this might be a bit too much to chew for you at the moment.

Your best bet is an N/A S5 FC3S. It's fast, it handles well, and it's a good car to get started on, as well as not draining your funds right away. From your previous posts, and mentioning you want a 300HP car, I'm probably guessing you're planning to go racing down the streets with all your friends >.> There's a lot of work that comes between not even having a license, and having 300 HP. Learning how to handle a lot of power, for one. Tuning a car while keeping it running smoothly, for another. Or even, finding the funds to simply buy a 300 HP car, another point to be considered.

A couple other things. Lots of forum reading can make you to believe that certain jobs on a car will "only cost X amount of dollars". However, this depends on a lot of things, like your own ability to do things on your car (Do-It-yourselfness - because mechanics and shops cost a hell of a lot), as well as the availbility of parts (if everyone could go to a junkyard and get a Silvia, I bet they'd be cheaper to import, no? =P). Also, back to RX-7's... if you plan to do a Turbo II swap, or buy a TII, do you even know how to maintain and care for a Turbo II?

That's all I have to ramble about =D Oh, and since age seems to be such a big thing, I'm 16 haha

Wankels-Revenge

Dood...an s14.5 silvia front end is different than an s15 front end. Don't believe me? Google it. I dont care....

And the reason the sr20 is the best engine to swap into the silvia chassis is cuz its the engine that belongs in that chassis. Everything else is just...oh i dunno...a challenge?

And sport compact car USED to be good. The only good thing about that mag now is Dave Coleman.

sa22c_Drifter

Is the same front end bro. The "s14.5" is an s14 chassis with fenders, hood, front bumper and, headlights from an s15. In other words, an s15 front end.

The reason why the sr20 is the best engine for that car is because is the only engine that comes close to giving the silvia chassis a 50/50 weight distribution. Oh, and the fact that you can achieve 400 horsepower on a stock bottom end.

If sport compact car used to be good, then by all means super street should no longer exist.

Wankels-Revenge

From my understanding the s14.5 front end is different from the s15. And the sr20 is the engine that the silvia chassis was designed for...so it should definitely be the best one for the job i'd imagine.

Anyway i think we've hijacked this thread enough. The dood's probably already bought a car and forgotten about us in here

rotary revolution 7

you are starting with too strong a car you need something easy to learn on or you could damage your car. you should stick with an fc why should you get a 240 like everybody else

AFRICANTHUNDER

Let me start off by saying you ARE a jackass and you DON'T know your ****. I don't even know where to begin because of how little you know. First off you want to buy an s14 which would probably go for 3800-5000 dollars(buy my 95 if you really want). You also insist on swapping an rb25 or an rb20 (pointless) because they are "BIGDOG" engines. i dont think its because they are "BIGDOG" engines i think its because someone has seen 2fast 2furious way too many times and cant get over the skyline hype. Now for you to swap in an rb25 it would cost about $3600 from phase2motortrend, a reputable website for jdm engines, not ebay where you would have to deal with a possible inexperienced seller, cut harness, no ecu, bad turbo, etc. You would need to fabricate intercooler piping since you are using a 6 cyl engine in an engine bay designed for a 4 cyl. Which brings me to the point of why would you want to swap in that engine? The sr20 can produce as much horsepower and it would be less money lighter weight and very streetable. The 240 would handle like **** with an rb in it, so you would have to go with shocks/struts or coilovers. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that motor mounts to swap in an rb cost $1000 alone when you wouldn't even need new mounts for an sr20. Now for whatever it cost to put an rb(250hp-280hp) in or you could have a 400hp sr or ka and money left over. i could go on for another 3 or 4 pages pointing out the mistakes in the information youve given and just your general lack of knowledge pertaining to the 240sx. also what the hell was the point of posting in a rx7 forum to ask about what car to buy what the hell do you think people will say. id tell you to buy a dsm and get the amount of power you want for very little money but i dont want to see you ruin ANY good cars so go buy a honda and have fun rice boy!

p.s. If you want another opinion try posting on Zilvia or Fresh Alloy.

rs_1101

i think africanthunder was alittle out of line. now when i was 15, i didnt know what 300 horsepower felt like... you know, the world seems bigger then. also hes still learning. so id prefer if you dont make this kid feel small. everyone has to start learning sometime, so lets just try to answer his questions, cuz im sure hell have some, and not go tell him to drive a honda. noone deserves that. :-D

EDiddy

dude you be on crack if you think you can do a S14 with a Skyline motor for 5K

the motor itself is gonna be about 4K maybe more
plus the cost of labor and fabrication parts and buying parts you need to make it run
the cost for tha is gonna be about 8K MINIMUM prolly more than that
do the research then talk the facts
and i agree with everyone else
get your license and learn to drive before you decide to have a huge power car to impress your friends

EDiddy

no dude the s14.5 is the updated front end look for the s14 with the projector headlights and differnt grill pieces
95 to 98 years i believe
if you look at Wankels Revenge picture on page 3 the s14.5 is the bottom white one
look at the front end compared to the red s14 above it
that is the differnce hence the s14.5 name
it got updated with better and safer parts