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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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short throw shift kits?

im having a hard time finding short shift kits for my new 87 rx7 turbo II... im not looking to buy right now, but im just looking to get an idea on how much some of this stuff is gonna cost. anybody have an idea how much they cost and/or where to look for them?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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with slight modification a MIata short throw will fit.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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yea i used a modded miata one (with new bushings)
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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http://corksport.com/store/category/...rivetrain.html

Near the bottom

http://mazdatrix.com/g4.htm

Even has an installation guide
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Those are all very expensive, I bought mine from a guy on the Australian Rotary forums who imports gearbox's from Japan (short shifters sometimes come on the box's) - it is second hand but in excellent condition and only cost me $100AUD!

Maybe you can find someone in Michigan that does the same :P
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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my miata short throw cost my $30 then another $25 to have a local mechine shop mill out my shifter block. i hear with a T2 it wont need to be milled.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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if you look on ebay they have some made for the fc for like $70 +shipping
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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prepare for shifter rattle.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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@S4GXL - Please don't just spout off useless and incorrect blanket statements such as "prepare for shifter rattle".

@ the OP: For some reason, random 7's will experience shifter rattle that to the best of my knowledge no one has ever figured out. Mazdatrix even mentions this on their site. It doesn't happen in many of our cars but it can. For the most part, no...especially if you replace all your bushings and good stuff.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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@ gringo wtf dude its not incorrect. im telling him to prepare for shifter rattle. if it doesnt happen hes all gravy but i think its helpful to let people know about it.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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note i have driven a car with a RX short throw and it was longer then my miata short throw.

the price for a RX-7 shifter will be more cause of 2 letters .R and X. LOL

note the Miata shifter will need a 10x1.25 thread shifter ****.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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alright thanks guys! you have me a lot of things to consider. first thing first though.. get it running haha.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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@ gringo wtf dude its not incorrect. im telling him to prepare for shifter rattle. if it doesnt happen hes all gravy but i think its helpful to let people know about it.
im all gravy??? im not sure if i want to be gravy at all. lol no i know about shifter rattle. my buddys 91 240sx has some shifter rattle.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider
note i have driven a car with a RX short throw and it was longer then my miata short throw.

the price for a RX-7 shifter will be more cause of 2 letters .R and X. LOL

note the Miata shifter will need a 10x1.25 thread shifter ****.
Short throw shifter does not refer to how tall the shifter is. Short throw shifters reduce the length of the shift from gear to gear.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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I created a thread a couple of years ago titled "curing short throw shifter rattle". Here's the wording from that thread:

According to the guys at Mazdatrix, shifter rattle is a problem related to the car and not the shifter. From my experience, I think they're right. It's just aggravating that no one (including the guys at Mazdatrix) has figured out a way to fix it.

I'm no different...I didn't figure out a way to fix it, but by doing several things in it's installation, I did manage to cut out nearly alll of the rattle. Before I did this, the rattle was unbearable, and I was planning on putting the stock shifter mechanism back in. Here goes:

1) Pull out all of the shifter mechanism parts and completely remove all of the oil in the shifter tower. I went to the drug store and bought one of those rubber bulb suckers that parents use to clear out baby's stuffy nose. Works great!

2) Clear out any debris that may have fallen down in the shifter tower over the years, like broken parts of bushings and boots. Clean out any remaining oil with a rag or absorbent paper towels.

3) Get a 5/8" rubber washer, 1/8" thick and seat it down at the bottom of the shift tower. Make sure its as level as you can get it and press it fully down on the bottom

4) Cover this washer with wheel bearing grease. It's OK to be liberal with the grease here.

5) Install the inner spacer of the short throw shifter and verify that there is no lateral play in its fit. I used some Inner tube patch pieces of rubber to shim it up and make a snug fit.

6) Pour synthetic gear lube in the shift tower until the hole is completely covered

7) Complete the installation of the rest of the short throw shifter mechanism, being sure to use brand new upper and lower plastic bushings and leaf springs.

This is what I did and pretty much cured the shifter rattle. For what its worth you might want to give it a try if you're having the same problem. Couldn't hurt.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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I was lucky in that my original C's short shifter does not rattle, I just wish it had a even shorter throw.

My money would be on replacing all bushings and the little spring clips to get a good feeling stock shifter- throw a new boot on there and it will feel like new, nice and tight.

So this miata short shifter you guys talk about is just a shorter shifter? not really the same thing.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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So this miata short shifter you guys talk about is just a shorter shifter? not really the same thing.
No, the "Miata short shifter" actually does decrease the throw by changing the pivot point ratio- just like any kit would.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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well ill keep everyone posted when i get to working on the car. hopefully we get to go pick it up tonight. im going to make a new thread and try to document everything i can with pics and stuff.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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and these miata short shifter kits are $30?
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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and these miata short shifter kits are $30?
On eBay yes, around that.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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yea i was actually talking about aq short throw shifter which moves the pivot point allowing for shorter throws. hight wise the miata shifter is maybe 1/4" shorter throw wise its major.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-97...1%7C240%3A1318

22 bucks in a black chrome finish.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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ill trade my short shifter + sparco **** to someone for their stock shifter and stock ****!
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by S4GXL
ill trade my short shifter + sparco **** to someone for their stock shifter and stock ****!
ummm K!

no really I have it sitting in my box at work
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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ill trade my short shifter + sparco **** to someone for their stock shifter and stock ****!
i would trade in a heart beat may need bushing though
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S4GXL
ill trade my short shifter + sparco **** to someone for their stock shifter and stock ****!
Got one ready to be pulled out tomorrow, 100% bone stock good condition S4 if you are serious?

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