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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Sequential shifters for our cars?

Anyone know a company that makes those semi-sequential shifters for our cars?
... the ones that convert the H-pattern into a straight line up and down shift mechanism, while still using teh clutch.
I know about the ikeya formula shifter, but they only make them for FDs.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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FD and S5 tranny is the same thing internally.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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i know HKS makes a regular sequential transmission now but thats all i know of
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Damien is running a T5 with a Geforce gearset but that is still an H-pattern. That is your most affordable route, if you can fabricate. The Guru dogbox gearset is ~$5k and is a modified H-pattern. Your looking >$$ for a SMG.

The HKS is around $8k and is sequential and would be the easiest to "drop in". Doug Nash or Jericho could custom build you one with more $$ and they won't just bolt in.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
FD and S5 tranny is the same thing internally.

yeah, but that shifter uses the FD Middle Boot mount points, which are different on the S5 Fcs.




Originally Posted by YaNi
Damien is running a T5 with a Geforce gearset but that is still an H-pattern. That is your most affordable route, if you can fabricate. The Guru dogbox gearset is ~$5k and is a modified H-pattern. Your looking >$$ for a SMG.

The HKS is around $8k and is sequential and would be the easiest to "drop in". Doug Nash or Jericho could custom build you one with more $$ and they won't just bolt in.

i'am not really looking for a real dog mission - to noisy and overkill for the street IMO - just something that is similar to the ikeya shifter, and bolts on the S5 stock tranny.


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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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bump, want more info
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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humm intresting..
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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OS giken use the make one,i have the bottom part that goes on the stock fc tranny but do not have the shifter part,it came in a j-spec s5 that i purchased a couple of years ago,i searched for a long time trying to find a replacement shifter and no good,Back in the mid 90s hks use to make them for FC but the are not longer avaliable same thing with RE Amemiya
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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I don't think that's even possible, the SMG shifter would somehow have to translate the single axis forward/backward motion into steps that would use the same motions as the stock shifter. Am I right?

As far as I know, that requires an aftermarket transmission.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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It eats synchros and will eventually eat the tranny itself.
This is why it was taken off the market so quick.

Interesting concept, but in reality it fails.


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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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that is what i heard that they will eat the snychros
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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MEh my dogmission is fine without the super mad quick shifts. I love WOT shifts you can do with this trans but I am worried about its strength, after getting mine I stated seeing older threads popping p where the 2nd and 3rd gears have failed.

Also this is for the HKS unit.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jmkogut
I don't think that's even possible, the SMG shifter would somehow have to translate the single axis forward/backward motion into steps that would use the same motions as the stock shifter. Am I right?

As far as I know, that requires an aftermarket transmission.
the shifter itself converts the conventional H-pattern shift movements into a sequential up and down shift mechanism. You still have to use the clutch, but the movements are dramatically shortened and simplified.

... so you make the sequential shift movments, but the shifter itself goes through the normal H-pattern. that's why you don't need an aftermarket tranny on this one.


Here's an explanation video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHhJNkEKT7A

a track evo @ tsukuba using the ikeya sequential shifter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4JAjY7iu4

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ◡ KUZU◕7◕
but the movements are dramatically shortened and simplified.
And this exactly why the synchros get eaten...
You can shift so fast with this thing that it'll kill the trans.


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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Dude, that's awesome. I want one for my track car.
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