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I'm terrified after driving my fc in the rain for the first time. I was taking a turn at slow speed and spun out almost hitting another car! How do I keep my car stable 100%? Also my rear end kicked out... and I had no idea how to correct it. Please give me some tips!
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i do that alot, what u can do is like he said, get better tires or if your like me and broke, learn how to tell if its slipping and turn the wheel to compensate till u catch, also i shift into second when i turn, most people do it in 3rd from what i hear, but second gear and very carful clutch gas combo will keep you gripped. just keep trying, and dont stop driving in the rain, if you get scared you'll never learn and just never drive in the rain.
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Easily.... I mean easily... and slowly.. let off the gas... and turn into the slide, (point the wheel where you want to go), quickly but smooth. The key is NO JERKY OR ERRATIC MOVEMENTS. It has a certain flow to it. After some practice in a parking lot to learn your car. After some time, it will become second nature.
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I've never had this prob, even in heavy rain. The lack of power steering helps out for me though. Without power steering you can feel the traction of the road better in bad conditions.
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Originally Posted by Torch101
Also my rear end kicked out... and I had no idea how to correct it. Please give me some tips!
Call a local driving school and book some time with an instructor. Most also have skid, wet and ice courses on the weekend where you can learn to recover from oversteer in a controlled and safe mannor.
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First off make sure the car is in good working order. Allignment, tires etc.
This is the best advice.
Many insurance companies will give discounts to drivers who have taken collision avoidance and car control courses. That means that the innitial outlay of cash for the course will be made up in the savings from your insurance. Think of it as an investment. As was said, car control should come as second nature - and this will help you to no end. Borrow the money if you have to.
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Here's an example: Skip Barber
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Safe driving applies to everybody. Skip Barber programs let you, family and friends develop the skills to prepare for any obstacle or challenge encountered on today's roads. Courses combine classroom and behind-the-wheel instruction in an exciting variety of Dodge passenger vehicles; the Dodge Neon, Dodge Dakota Sport and Dodge Viper SRT-10. Participants have the time of their life - and learn the skills that could save it.
Programs are developed to provide a fun and fast-paced learning environment. Understanding the performance limitations of your vehicle will make you a better driver. The Driving School is for everybody, from the novice to the experienced driver, whether your focus is on accident avoidance or you just want to enhance your daily commute.
Thousands of teens, concerned Moms and Dads have benefited from our exclusive course curriculum, which incorporates a rotation of driving exercises. Valid driver's license required (drivers under 18 must have parental consent).
ONE DAY DRIVING SCHOOL
This program features a classroom session on vehicle dynamics, identifying why cars behave the way they do. But the bulk of the day is spent outdoors in cars. Learn and practice slides and recoveries on a skid pad, threshold braking and accident avoidance techniques. Using the V8 Dodge Dakota pickup truck, you'll practice slides and recovery while the nimble Dodge Neon powers you through lane-toss exercises. The highlight of the program tests your newfound skills in an exhilarating autocross session utilizing the V10-powered Dodge Viper SRT-10.
$795Click here for schedule NEW DRIVER PROGRAM
A derivative of the Dodge/Skip Barber Driving School, the New Driver Program is for drivers who’ve recently acquired their licenses. The program conveys the same Vehicle Dynamics message made clear in the Driving School but emphasizes greater street awareness and a thorough review of road etiquette. Operating a standard transmission, parallel parking and reversing exercises are now part of the curriculum. Students still benefit from core Driving School exercises like Braking, Emergency Lane Change, Autocross and Skidpad.
$695Click here for schedule ONE-DAY COMBO PROGRAM
Our newest course combines elements from two popular programs; the One-Day Driving School and Introduction to Racing. Drive four different vehicles to learn or hone your performance driving skills. This all-day session features threshold braking, slides and recovery exercises using the Dodge Neon, Dakota Quad Cab truck and Viper SRT-10 and on-track action in the 2.0 liter Formula Dodge racecar. Like all Skip Barber programs, you steadily develop your confidence over the course of the day. Buckle in for autocross, strap in for the race track and unlock your potential in a safe, controlled environment. Students who want to go further are eligible to participate in a Car Control Clinic.
$1,295Click here for schedule TWO DAY DRIVING SCHOOL
The Two Day Driving School incorporates all the elements of the One Day Driving School but with more seat time for each exercise. The curriculum adds heel-and-toe downshifting, emergency lane changes, and more accident avoidance maneuvers. Additional classroom sessions address street awareness and road manners. Two Day Driving School graduates are immediately eligible to enroll in the Car Control Clinic, a Skip Barber Racing School Advanced Activity.
$1,295Click here for schedule TWO DAY ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE SCHOOL
An offshoot of the Dodge/Skip Barber Driving School, the Ultra High Performance Program is for experienced drivers looking for the thrill of high speed and high g-load exercises. As in all programs, the Vehicle Dynamics message is emphasized to convey the importance of physics as it relates to vehicle safety, balance and car control. Dodge Neons, Dakota trucks and the 500HP Viper SRT-10 act as rolling classrooms over the two day program. In addition to autocrossing, braking and skidpad, a champagne slalom, timed figure-8 exercise and advanced powerslides help to wrench up the fun factor.
Prerequisite for the Two Day Ultra High Performance School. Graduate of the following Skip Barber programs: DODGE/SKIP BARBER DRIVING SCHOOL [1- or 2-day], INTRO TO RACING, ONE-DAY COMBO OR membership/experience with an organized driving club (i.e. SCCA, autocrossing, car club, track day participant).
$1,395Click here for schedule
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Call a local driving school and book some time with an instructor. Most also have skid, wet and ice courses on the weekend where you can learn to recover from oversteer in a controlled and safe mannor.
Many insurance companies will give discounts to drivers who have taken collision avoidance and car control courses. That means that the innitial outlay of cash for the course will be made up in the savings from your insurance. Think of it as an investment. As was said, car control should come as second nature - and this will help you to no end. Borrow the money if you have to.
EDIT:
Here's an example: Skip Barber
DODGE/SKIP BARBER DRIVING SCHOOL Any Road, Any Condition, Any Time. You Can Handle It
Safe driving applies to everybody. Skip Barber programs let you, family and friends develop the skills to prepare for any obstacle or challenge encountered on today's roads. Courses combine classroom and behind-the-wheel instruction in an exciting variety of Dodge passenger vehicles; the Dodge Neon, Dodge Dakota Sport and Dodge Viper SRT-10. Participants have the time of their life - and learn the skills that could save it.
Programs are developed to provide a fun and fast-paced learning environment. Understanding the performance limitations of your vehicle will make you a better driver. The Driving School is for everybody, from the novice to the experienced driver, whether your focus is on accident avoidance or you just want to enhance your daily commute.
Thousands of teens, concerned Moms and Dads have benefited from our exclusive course curriculum, which incorporates a rotation of driving exercises. Valid driver's license required (drivers under 18 must have parental consent).
ONE DAY DRIVING SCHOOL
This program features a classroom session on vehicle dynamics, identifying why cars behave the way they do. But the bulk of the day is spent outdoors in cars. Learn and practice slides and recoveries on a skid pad, threshold braking and accident avoidance techniques. Using the V8 Dodge Dakota pickup truck, you'll practice slides and recovery while the nimble Dodge Neon powers you through lane-toss exercises. The highlight of the program tests your newfound skills in an exhilarating autocross session utilizing the V10-powered Dodge Viper SRT-10.
$795Click here for schedule NEW DRIVER PROGRAM
A derivative of the Dodge/Skip Barber Driving School, the New Driver Program is for drivers who’ve recently acquired their licenses. The program conveys the same Vehicle Dynamics message made clear in the Driving School but emphasizes greater street awareness and a thorough review of road etiquette. Operating a standard transmission, parallel parking and reversing exercises are now part of the curriculum. Students still benefit from core Driving School exercises like Braking, Emergency Lane Change, Autocross and Skidpad.
$695Click here for schedule ONE-DAY COMBO PROGRAM
Our newest course combines elements from two popular programs; the One-Day Driving School and Introduction to Racing. Drive four different vehicles to learn or hone your performance driving skills. This all-day session features threshold braking, slides and recovery exercises using the Dodge Neon, Dakota Quad Cab truck and Viper SRT-10 and on-track action in the 2.0 liter Formula Dodge racecar. Like all Skip Barber programs, you steadily develop your confidence over the course of the day. Buckle in for autocross, strap in for the race track and unlock your potential in a safe, controlled environment. Students who want to go further are eligible to participate in a Car Control Clinic.
$1,295Click here for schedule TWO DAY DRIVING SCHOOL
The Two Day Driving School incorporates all the elements of the One Day Driving School but with more seat time for each exercise. The curriculum adds heel-and-toe downshifting, emergency lane changes, and more accident avoidance maneuvers. Additional classroom sessions address street awareness and road manners. Two Day Driving School graduates are immediately eligible to enroll in the Car Control Clinic, a Skip Barber Racing School Advanced Activity.
$1,295Click here for schedule TWO DAY ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE SCHOOL
An offshoot of the Dodge/Skip Barber Driving School, the Ultra High Performance Program is for experienced drivers looking for the thrill of high speed and high g-load exercises. As in all programs, the Vehicle Dynamics message is emphasized to convey the importance of physics as it relates to vehicle safety, balance and car control. Dodge Neons, Dakota trucks and the 500HP Viper SRT-10 act as rolling classrooms over the two day program. In addition to autocrossing, braking and skidpad, a champagne slalom, timed figure-8 exercise and advanced powerslides help to wrench up the fun factor.
Prerequisite for the Two Day Ultra High Performance School. Graduate of the following Skip Barber programs: DODGE/SKIP BARBER DRIVING SCHOOL [1- or 2-day], INTRO TO RACING, ONE-DAY COMBO OR membership/experience with an organized driving club (i.e. SCCA, autocrossing, car club, track day participant).
$1,395Click here for schedule
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From Torch's description, it sounds to me like he has a mechanical and/or tire problem. Maybe your rear suspension is damaged or worn out? As was asked before, how slow is slow? Were you taking the corner at the pace that normal traffic would?
As for how to handle such a situation, yanking off the gas isn't a good idea. Doing that transfers the weight off the rear of the car to the front of the car. That means that your rear tires have even less grip.
As for how to handle such a situation, yanking off the gas isn't a good idea. Doing that transfers the weight off the rear of the car to the front of the car. That means that your rear tires have even less grip.
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Originally Posted by sectachrome
hahaha, that used to happen to me all the time when i had bald rear tires, but i liked it
I drove is some serious rain today when I went to see if mazda would give me my FC back... there was about a 1/2in of water on the road that could not run off since it was raining so hard... maybe trade the FC in for a semi... they dont have problems in rain and such.
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My tires are shitty, yet I've had no problems, and I'm a rookie driver, both RWD and shifting. I do a lot of driving on rutted back roads, and my bald tires love to hydroplane, on curves, or anywhere else. The first thing you've got to do is learn what you are doing, let the car talk to you, listen to what it's doing. If you are good enough, you can hear the way the tires are contacting the ground, and can feel the slightest slip. I'm not great, but I'm getting there. Ideally, you should be able to get a sense of the car, all the way around. Since I'm not great, I take it granny style, I practically use a walker sometimes.
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Torch,
Your question was "How do i correct the car once the rear end kicks out?".
You learn to countersteer and correct the car so it is no longer sliding around the turn. Like they said, go out to an empty parking lot and just play around for a bit and learn how to handle the car.
Your question was "How do i correct the car once the rear end kicks out?".
You learn to countersteer and correct the car so it is no longer sliding around the turn. Like they said, go out to an empty parking lot and just play around for a bit and learn how to handle the car.
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how are you having such problems in the rain??? god forbid you ever try driving in snow with a RWD car. Seriously go grab some one who knows what he is doing and have them show you next time it rains in a parking lot. It will be fun and you'll learn how not to hit other people.
sliding the back end in the rain/snow with bald tires is a hell of a lot of fun, just don't do it with other car/trees/curbs around.
sliding the back end in the rain/snow with bald tires is a hell of a lot of fun, just don't do it with other car/trees/curbs around.
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I also recommend (aside from getting new tires of course), go to http://www.scca.org and find a local autocross (Solo II) chapter. Go autocrossing. It normally only costs 25 bucks or so per day, and you learn a LOT about controlling your car in a safe manner, while not really having the potential to damage your car or anyone else.
That and its a helluva fun way to spend a sunday and meet awesome people.
That and its a helluva fun way to spend a sunday and meet awesome people.
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I'm surprised that nobody mentioned "first rain".
Absolutely the most dangerous time is when it hasn't rained for a while, allowing soot and oil to build up on the roads and then it rains, bringing all the stuff to the surface. I learned the hard way and spun my 7 bad, with decent tires taking a ramp a bit too fast. I couldn't believe it since I thought I was a pretty good driver. But when I got out of the car the road was so slick I could barely stand on it in tennis shoes.
You should have seen it! I ran back up the ramp to try to warn oncoming cars of the danger and car after car spun out, hit the guard rails, flying off the side of the ramp, in the general direction of my 7 but thankfully not into it.
Happened a second time, first rain again, but this time I steered out of it. AGAIN, when I got out, I actually slipped and fell.
Beware the first rain!
Absolutely the most dangerous time is when it hasn't rained for a while, allowing soot and oil to build up on the roads and then it rains, bringing all the stuff to the surface. I learned the hard way and spun my 7 bad, with decent tires taking a ramp a bit too fast. I couldn't believe it since I thought I was a pretty good driver. But when I got out of the car the road was so slick I could barely stand on it in tennis shoes.
You should have seen it! I ran back up the ramp to try to warn oncoming cars of the danger and car after car spun out, hit the guard rails, flying off the side of the ramp, in the general direction of my 7 but thankfully not into it.
Happened a second time, first rain again, but this time I steered out of it. AGAIN, when I got out, I actually slipped and fell.
Beware the first rain!