2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

a sad day for the seven. won't start at d1. game over

Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:47 AM
  #1  
brandonn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: socal
a sad day for the seven. won't start at d1. game over

The biggest irony was that the car didn't start when i was at D1 on sunday at the irwindale speedway. It drove there fine and didn't start after i turned it off. I'm pretty depressed but im gonna try to fix it one last time before i let it go. I'm not mechanically inclined but i'll check spark and fuel delivery. If its not any of that then i will call it quits and buy a honda... yea a honda haha. I really hate to see this one go.


if you're in the socal area and need a fc to rebuild/fix. everything is there no mods. bone stock. 95% clean interior. just tears on driver seat and radio bezel needs jbwelding or replacement otherwise it looks really good. Bought the car from an original owner family. don't think i'll part it out because i hate to see a perfectly complete car get split up.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:31 AM
  #2  
texFCturboII's Avatar
version 2.0
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,596
Likes: 2
From: Fort Worth, TX
probably just flooded man, search for de-flooding procedures. It's quick and easy.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:42 AM
  #3  
Boosted11's Avatar
Pistons are gay
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 0
From: Prince George, BC
Coil packs as well.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:52 AM
  #4  
brandonn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: socal
i have a kill switch on my car for flooding issues that never failed. i turned the killswitch on pumped the gas peddle a few times. turn it off and voila it starts, but this time it didn't work lol. it sounds like the engine isn't getting fuel. it cranks but doesn't start
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:35 AM
  #5  
TurboMazdaSpeed's Avatar
1.3L piston eater
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 514
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver, Canada
Originally Posted by brandonn
i have a kill switch on my car for flooding issues that never failed. i turned the killswitch on pumped the gas peddle a few times. turn it off and voila it starts, but this time it didn't work lol. it sounds like the engine isn't getting fuel. it cranks but doesn't start
does it smell like fuel after you crank it alot trying to get it to start? if so then you got fuel deilvery.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:25 AM
  #6  
agallardo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
From: Canton, GA
Hey man, i am having the same problem. I drove it to the gas station and filled up. As soon as I got in to crank it, it didnt start. It cranks but doesnt start. I can definitely smell fuel though when cranking. So I left my cut off switch off, so that the pump wouldnt pump anything, and just keeping trying to crank, and eventually it cranked after about 10-15 min. and then I turned on the fuel pump. I have the cutoff switch as well, and it still floods. I just dont know what to do either. Anyone have any other ideas why this happens? Seems like we both have the same problem man.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:05 AM
  #7  
Mazmart Trini's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, Ga
Originally Posted by agallardo
Hey man, i am having the same problem. I drove it to the gas station and filled up. As soon as I got in to crank it, it didnt start. It cranks but doesnt start. I can definitely smell fuel though when cranking. So I left my cut off switch off, so that the pump wouldnt pump anything, and just keeping trying to crank, and eventually it cranked after about 10-15 min. and then I turned on the fuel pump. I have the cutoff switch as well, and it still floods. I just dont know what to do either. Anyone have any other ideas why this happens? Seems like we both have the same problem man.
It sounds like a low compression issue. I will try to make it to you on Saturday after I go look at the next project .
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:43 PM
  #8  
AR Rotary's Avatar
Parts > Bills
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
From: Hot Springs, Arkansas
You can lose compression from flooding too often. I would do the ATF trick and get those damn injectors fixed ASAP.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:51 PM
  #9  
TweakGames's Avatar
FD pro licensed driver
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,897
Likes: 2
From: Renton/Bellevue/Seattle WA
OMG NO DO NOT DO THE ATF trick

/kick DriftHappy




It is going to be something simple, like a vac line came off or one of your main fuses popped. Or even the wiring for your switch to turn off your fuel pump broke, or your wireing for that switch hit the body and popped the fuel pump fuse (happened to me). I would check all that first. You have fuses under the hood and under the dash.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:55 PM
  #10  
1RevvinFC3S's Avatar
DOWNSTAIRS MIXUP
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,723
Likes: 0
From: Lampasas, TX
Is there a flooding epidemic or something? I'm having the same issue.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:27 PM
  #11  
brandonn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: socal
Originally Posted by TurboMazdaSpeed
does it smell like fuel after you crank it alot trying to get it to start? if so then you got fuel deilvery.
doesn't smell like fuel at all. My first guess was the fuel pump, my 2nd guess was spark. I got new spark plugs lying around and a new fuel filter. I'll probably change those and see what happens. Is there a possibility that a clogged fuel filter will prevent it from starting? Also is the fuel pump hard to change? I read the fsm and it seems simple enough. Probably gonna hit the junkyard to get a fuel pump. If it isn't the fuel pump then i'm really gonna call it quits haha.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:32 PM
  #12  
Jeppy's Avatar
RaLlY In ThE VaLlEy
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: Winthrop WA.
anyone try starting fluid see if it will fire for a second maby it will be enough to pull some gas through the lines if its flooding tho it wont work..maby actually i dunno try it!
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 02:42 PM
  #13  
brandonn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: socal
The Rotary Livesssss

fixed my problem. fouled spark plugs. YESSS THE ROTARY LIVESSSSS
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:09 PM
  #14  
Roen's Avatar
The Silent but Deadly Mod
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,047
Likes: 3
From: NYC/T.O.
Can we make it a rule to ban whichever users suggests the use of ATF?????
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:38 PM
  #15  
Turbo II Rotor's Avatar
Who Shot the Sheriff?
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,858
Likes: 2
From: Aurora, CO
Yes please, Seafoam ftw.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:35 PM
  #16  
t24todd's Avatar
RE_p Rotors
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Newport News/Fredericksburg
7s like to flood...drive normal no drifting into the gas station or quick stop light race then shut her off...and at least buy a new fuel pump not that expensive...its very easy to replace them btw.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:10 PM
  #17  
TweakGames's Avatar
FD pro licensed driver
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,897
Likes: 2
From: Renton/Bellevue/Seattle WA
Originally Posted by Roen
Can we make it a rule to ban whichever users suggests the use of ATF?????
Yeup.. I vote instant ban.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:05 PM
  #18  
blue87t2's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 143
Likes: 1
From: Lincoln NE
lol, my car just did the same thing, did a couple pulls to 5th gear brought the car back home after a nice cool down and shut it off outside to move some things in the garage and I ended up pushing the thing in the garage. plugs looks pretty fouled so tomorrow off to buy new plugs. I checked compression while i was at it the poor man way and the engine sounds even.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:13 PM
  #19  
micah's Avatar
Winter sucks
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 0
From: Newberg, Oregon
Originally Posted by DriftHappy
You can lose compression from flooding too often. I would do the ATF trick and get those damn injectors fixed ASAP.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:34 PM
  #20  
brandonn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: socal
Originally Posted by blue87t2
lol, my car just did the same thing, did a couple pulls to 5th gear brought the car back home after a nice cool down and shut it off outside to move some things in the garage and I ended up pushing the thing in the garage. plugs looks pretty fouled so tomorrow off to buy new plugs. I checked compression while i was at it the poor man way and the engine sounds even.
lol at least your car was at home. Mine cost 140 bucks to tow home. the fc's been acting up lately. i fixed the plugs, ac belt snaps causing alternator belt to become twisted. after changing the belt my car won't even crank. at that point i got really frustrated. Finally figured that the main fuse was blown so i stupidly tried to yank it out like the other fuses (don't ask) yea, broke the fuse apart and then found out you had to unscrew it. went to change the fuse and car starts again. Long day . . . . for the fc and a longer one for me but i won't complain because those are necessary maintenance items for any old car and not because its a rotary. In fact, i've had no engine problems at all (minus flooding).
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:20 AM
  #21  
simoncbrr1's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
From: Fredericksburg VA
Ok maybe i missed something?????? Theres a thread in the archives talking about how wonderful the ATF trick is and blah blah blah. I never heard of it myself until recently but now im confused? Is the ATF trick good or bad? and why?
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:24 AM
  #22  
finishline's Avatar
Not Even Foo
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,999
Likes: 1
From: South Bay, CA
Originally Posted by TweakGames
Yeup.. I vote instant ban.
get aaroncake's vote... because that picture is so cool.
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #23  
Roen's Avatar
The Silent but Deadly Mod
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,047
Likes: 3
From: NYC/T.O.
Aaron Cake's opinion on the ATF trick

http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/atftrick.htm
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:53 AM
  #24  
DriftingB26RX7's Avatar
Porsche-Hunter
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,055
Likes: 0
From: 90041
I use atf on my piston motor with non adjustable lifters to make them stop ticking
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:56 AM
  #25  
Hellbent1stN2ndownr's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Atf Is Bad!!!!!!!!!
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 AM.