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brandonn 11-28-07 12:47 AM

a sad day for the seven. won't start at d1. game over
 
The biggest irony was that the car didn't start when i was at D1 on sunday at the irwindale speedway. It drove there fine and didn't start after i turned it off. I'm pretty depressed but im gonna try to fix it one last time before i let it go. I'm not mechanically inclined but i'll check spark and fuel delivery. If its not any of that then i will call it quits and buy a honda... yea a honda haha. I really hate to see this one go.


if you're in the socal area and need a fc to rebuild/fix. everything is there no mods. bone stock. 95% clean interior. just tears on driver seat and radio bezel needs jbwelding or replacement otherwise it looks really good. Bought the car from an original owner family. don't think i'll part it out because i hate to see a perfectly complete car get split up.

texFCturboII 11-28-07 01:31 AM

probably just flooded man, search for de-flooding procedures. It's quick and easy.

Boosted11 11-28-07 01:42 AM

Coil packs as well.

brandonn 11-28-07 03:52 AM

i have a kill switch on my car for flooding issues that never failed. i turned the killswitch on pumped the gas peddle a few times. turn it off and voila it starts, but this time it didn't work lol. it sounds like the engine isn't getting fuel. it cranks but doesn't start

TurboMazdaSpeed 11-28-07 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by brandonn (Post 7559797)
i have a kill switch on my car for flooding issues that never failed. i turned the killswitch on pumped the gas peddle a few times. turn it off and voila it starts, but this time it didn't work lol. it sounds like the engine isn't getting fuel. it cranks but doesn't start

does it smell like fuel after you crank it alot trying to get it to start? if so then you got fuel deilvery.

agallardo 11-28-07 06:25 AM

Hey man, i am having the same problem. I drove it to the gas station and filled up. As soon as I got in to crank it, it didnt start. It cranks but doesnt start. I can definitely smell fuel though when cranking. So I left my cut off switch off, so that the pump wouldnt pump anything, and just keeping trying to crank, and eventually it cranked after about 10-15 min. and then I turned on the fuel pump. I have the cutoff switch as well, and it still floods. I just dont know what to do either. Anyone have any other ideas why this happens? Seems like we both have the same problem man.

Mazmart Trini 11-28-07 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by agallardo (Post 7559929)
Hey man, i am having the same problem. I drove it to the gas station and filled up. As soon as I got in to crank it, it didnt start. It cranks but doesnt start. I can definitely smell fuel though when cranking. So I left my cut off switch off, so that the pump wouldnt pump anything, and just keeping trying to crank, and eventually it cranked after about 10-15 min. and then I turned on the fuel pump. I have the cutoff switch as well, and it still floods. I just dont know what to do either. Anyone have any other ideas why this happens? Seems like we both have the same problem man.

It sounds like a low compression issue. I will try to make it to you on Saturday after I go look at the next project :) .

AR Rotary 11-28-07 12:43 PM

You can lose compression from flooding too often. I would do the ATF trick and get those damn injectors fixed ASAP.

TweakGames 11-28-07 12:51 PM

OMG NO DO NOT DO THE ATF trick

/kick DriftHappy




It is going to be something simple, like a vac line came off or one of your main fuses popped. Or even the wiring for your switch to turn off your fuel pump broke, or your wireing for that switch hit the body and popped the fuel pump fuse (happened to me). I would check all that first. You have fuses under the hood and under the dash.

1RevvinFC3S 11-28-07 12:55 PM

Is there a flooding epidemic or something? I'm having the same issue.

brandonn 11-28-07 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by TurboMazdaSpeed (Post 7559837)
does it smell like fuel after you crank it alot trying to get it to start? if so then you got fuel deilvery.

doesn't smell like fuel at all. My first guess was the fuel pump, my 2nd guess was spark. I got new spark plugs lying around and a new fuel filter. I'll probably change those and see what happens. Is there a possibility that a clogged fuel filter will prevent it from starting? Also is the fuel pump hard to change? I read the fsm and it seems simple enough. Probably gonna hit the junkyard to get a fuel pump. If it isn't the fuel pump then i'm really gonna call it quits haha.

Jeppy 11-28-07 01:32 PM

anyone try starting fluid see if it will fire for a second maby it will be enough to pull some gas through the lines if its flooding tho it wont work..maby actually i dunno try it!

brandonn 11-28-07 02:42 PM

The Rotary Livesssss
 
fixed my problem. fouled spark plugs. YESSS THE ROTARY LIVESSSSS

Roen 11-28-07 03:09 PM

Can we make it a rule to ban whichever users suggests the use of ATF?????

Turbo II Rotor 11-28-07 03:38 PM

Yes please, Seafoam ftw.

t24todd 11-28-07 04:35 PM

7s like to flood...drive normal no drifting into the gas station or quick stop light race then shut her off...and at least buy a new fuel pump not that expensive...its very easy to replace them btw.

TweakGames 11-28-07 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Roen (Post 7561667)
Can we make it a rule to ban whichever users suggests the use of ATF?????

Yeup.. I vote instant ban.

blue87t2 11-28-07 10:05 PM

lol, my car just did the same thing, did a couple pulls to 5th gear brought the car back home after a nice cool down and shut it off outside to move some things in the garage and I ended up pushing the thing in the garage. plugs looks pretty fouled so tomorrow off to buy new plugs. I checked compression while i was at it the poor man way and the engine sounds even.

micah 11-28-07 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by DriftHappy (Post 7560894)
You can lose compression from flooding too often. I would do the ATF trick and get those damn injectors fixed ASAP.

:wallbash::icon_no2:

brandonn 11-28-07 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by blue87t2 (Post 7563580)
lol, my car just did the same thing, did a couple pulls to 5th gear brought the car back home after a nice cool down and shut it off outside to move some things in the garage and I ended up pushing the thing in the garage. plugs looks pretty fouled so tomorrow off to buy new plugs. I checked compression while i was at it the poor man way and the engine sounds even.

lol at least your car was at home. Mine cost 140 bucks to tow home. the fc's been acting up lately. i fixed the plugs, ac belt snaps causing alternator belt to become twisted. after changing the belt my car won't even crank. at that point i got really frustrated. Finally figured that the main fuse was blown so i stupidly tried to yank it out like the other fuses (don't ask) yea, broke the fuse apart and then found out you had to unscrew it. went to change the fuse and car starts again. Long day . . . . for the fc and a longer one for me but i won't complain because those are necessary maintenance items for any old car and not because its a rotary. In fact, i've had no engine problems at all (minus flooding).

simoncbrr1 11-29-07 08:20 AM

Ok maybe i missed something?????? Theres a thread in the archives talking about how wonderful the ATF trick is and blah blah blah. I never heard of it myself until recently but now im confused? Is the ATF trick good or bad? and why?

finishline 11-29-07 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 7562554)
Yeup.. I vote instant ban.

get aaroncake's vote... because that picture is so cool. :lol:

Roen 11-29-07 09:33 AM

Aaron Cake's opinion on the ATF trick
 
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/atftrick.htm

DriftingB26RX7 11-29-07 09:53 AM

I use atf on my piston motor with non adjustable lifters to make them stop ticking

Hellbent1stN2ndownr 11-29-07 09:56 AM

Atf Is Bad!!!!!!!!!


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