2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

S4 vs S5 coolant temp sensor

Old 04-29-04, 10:21 PM
  #1  
STUCK. I got SNOWNED!!!!!

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Terrh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Windsor, On
Posts: 8,722
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
S4 vs S5 coolant temp sensor

is there a difference? My S4 TII has an S5 engine and therefore an S5 coolant temp sensor.
The gauge always shows just above the C, and once the gauge got up to halfway but that's because the coolant was super boiling.

So I'm thinking that maybe they're different? this make sense?
Old 04-30-04, 08:45 PM
  #2  
STUCK. I got SNOWNED!!!!!

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Terrh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Windsor, On
Posts: 8,722
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
BUMP
Old 04-30-04, 09:11 PM
  #3  
knowledge junkie

 
vaughnc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 5,595
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
I think it's mostly the gauge. The S4's read 1/4 and the S5s read 1/2 when warmed up.
Old 04-30-04, 09:23 PM
  #4  
knowledge junkie

 
vaughnc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 5,595
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
I think it's mostly the gauge. The S4's read 1/4 and the S5s read 1/2 when warmed up.
Old 04-30-04, 10:18 PM
  #5  
I'm a boost creep...

 
NZConvertible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
The sensor is the same.
Old 04-30-04, 11:14 PM
  #6  
Senior Member

 
SwooshMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mine did exactly the same, i did a turbo swap from a 88 n/a to a s5 tII and the gauge doesnt move hardly at all. I have a microtech and it reads 86 C. WTF?
Old 05-02-04, 02:03 PM
  #7  
STUCK. I got SNOWNED!!!!!

Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
Terrh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Windsor, On
Posts: 8,722
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Okay, if the sensor is the same, what could the problem me?

coolant gauge at halfway = 260F.

That doesn't sound right to me.
Old 05-02-04, 09:53 PM
  #8  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (7)
 
sub9lulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 2,739
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i remember icemark said it is not the gauge
um... i forgot what it is
Old 05-03-04, 02:12 AM
  #9  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
silverrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Posts: 7,592
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally posted by SwooshMan
Mine did exactly the same, i did a turbo swap from a 88 n/a to a s5 tII and the gauge doesnt move hardly at all. I have a microtech and it reads 86 C. WTF?
Word for word - exactly the same with the exception of my GReddy Water Temperture Guage aswell reading 84C.
Old 05-03-04, 07:29 AM
  #10  
HAILERS

 
HAILERS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: FORT WORTH, TEXAS,USA
Posts: 20,563
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
So take both sensors and put them in the same pot of water and heat the water up. Then check the resistances b/t the two. They will be the same according to the series four and series five fsm's. Let us know what happened.
Old 05-05-04, 12:36 PM
  #11  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
silverrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Posts: 7,592
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Hailers, this maybe the case - but the readings do In fact display differently according to the Instrument Cluster (s5 sensor In s4 FC). The sad thing Is I believe I wasted my money buying a new Coolant Sender Unit to disprove this. I'll know this weekend when Aaron and I fire up my car for the first time In 6 months.
Old 06-07-04, 02:55 PM
  #12  
just dont care.

iTrader: (6)
 
jacobcartmill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,387
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
if you all are talking about the coolant temp switch that is in the rear iron under the oil pedestal, they are totally different between s4 and s5.

i have an s4 in mine (the car is an s5) and the gauge would jump straight to half way when the car was bone cold, then get to H when warmed up. witht he s5 sensor in there it works as it should getting to halfway when the car is warmed up.
Old 06-07-04, 02:57 PM
  #13  
just dont care.

iTrader: (6)
 
jacobcartmill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,387
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally posted by silverrotor
the readings do In fact display differently according to the Instrument Cluster (s5 sensor In s4 FC).
Old 06-07-04, 03:24 PM
  #14  
I'm a boost creep...

 
NZConvertible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Weird, since according to the FSM's both the S4 and S5 temp gauge senders should have basically the same resistances at the same temps:

S4: 153.9ohms at 50degC, 49.3-57.7ohms at 80degC, 12.4ohms at 130degC.

S5: 154ohms at 50degC, 49.3-57.7ohms at 80degC, 13ohms at 130degC.

Has anyone taken Hailers' advice and tested them this way?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ZaqAtaq
New Member RX-7 Technical
2
09-05-15 08:57 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: S4 vs S5 coolant temp sensor



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:23 PM.